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Old 05-21-2013, 05:07 PM  
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Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post
it's a common metaphor for low-paying, manual, menial, unskilled labor that others look down on. dwb is in thailand and used it and i am in cali and knew of the phrase.
We actually have a lot of ditch diggers here. Poor guys make like $9 a day for back breaking work.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post
african slaves didn't get schools and medicare and roads, and security, etc. to use in return.
They got food and a roof over their head, which during those times was a lot. Some did get a minimal education. They had security from other slave owners and anyone else so long as they stayed on the plantation. And the best of them got to breed the women.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post
but there would be no road at all if there were no taxes.
Toll roads, gas tax, and so on. Several US states already do it, such as Texas.

There are some countries with no income tax at all for individuals, such as Monaco.

Most people in SE Asia don't pay taxes. We have roads, government services, schools, fire departments, several branches of military, and everything else that people say no one would have if everyone stopped paying taxes. Don't be fooled, governments have plenty of money to do what they need IF they spend it on the right things.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post
i'm not trying to be dense but i really don't get the slave analogy.
slave (plural slaves)

Noun

*A person who is the property of another person and whose labor and also whose life often is subject to the owner's volition.
*A person who is legally obliged by prior contract (oral or written) to work for another, with contractually limited rights to bargain; an indentured servant.
*A person who is forced against his/her will to perform, for another person or other persons, personal services on a regular or continuing basis.

That pretty much sums up taxation. You didn't agree to any contract, you have no choice in the matter, it is forced upon you, you will be punished (or imprisoned) if you don't pay them, and you are an indentured servant to your government until the day you die where they will then charge a death tax.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
you've got to wonder, no one wants to pay taxes...ok so no one pays taxes. how does anything get funded? how does society function?
See my post above. Many countries who collect very little or no personal income tax revenue have everything they need. The money is there and there are plenty of ways to get it. It's the biggest lie and scam anyone has pulled since The Bible.
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