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Originally Posted by rogueteens
Well, there is the crux of the question. I could say that the moon is made of green cheese, its fact, I don't have to prove it because I said so.
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But we have been to the moon and know for a fact what it is made of.
I'm talking facts vs fantasy. God is a fantasy. Like a unicorn. Like a leprechaun. Like a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. No one has to prove a unicorn or leprechaun doesn't exist because they don't. It is not a belief that they don't exist, it is a fact that they do not exist.
What you are saying is, since you don't believe in a fairy tale and can't prove the fairy tale is not true, then not believing the fairy tale is true a belief instead of a fact. When in reality, a fairy tale is just a fairy tale and those who believe it to be true are the ones with mental issues, not you.
Jack And The Beanstalk is a fairy tale. It was written by man, just like every religious book on earth. It is not real. Everyone knows it is not real. It is a fairy tale. Just like every religious book on earth is. However, based on how you are thinking, if can not prove this fairy tale isn't real, then it must be just a belief and not fact. So not only are you an Atheiest who doesn't believe in God but can't prove he exists, but you're also a Beanstalkist who can't prove Jack and his giant beanstalk doesn't exist. There is
zero difference between God and Jack And The Beanstalk. However, one of them you feel that because you can't prove its non-existence that it is a belief and not fact.
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Originally Posted by rogueteens
...and if you cannot prove something then it is a belief, to say that you don't have to is the same argument that believers say.
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No, that is what illogical people with mental disorders say.
Not believing in God isn't a belief. It is how you should think as a rational, logical, evolved human being. Believing in God (or fairies) is a belief.