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Originally Posted by DWB
None of which have anything to do with the freedom of American citizens, which was the OP's point.
They are fighting alright, and perhaps a couple of the battles can be justified in some sick, perverse way, but fighting (and dying) for "American freedom" they are not. But it sounds heroic to say they are and it is a great battle cry, so I understand why they say it.
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How do you figure that fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan isn't fighting for our freedom?
In Afghanistan, it's pretty clear - We were attacked and in order to defend our freedom and protect the citizens at home, we had to go war to prevent them from doing it again.
With Iraq.... The freedom of another country was violated, and because the oil of Kuwait and more importantly Saudi Arabia helps to protect and defend our freedoms by selling us their oil - which was threatened.
So year, in both cases, we are fighting for for our freedoms.
You can even argue that in Vietnam we were fighting for our freedoms. Was Vietnam threatening the freedoms we have in the United States? Not at all. But communism was, and Vietnam was where we decided to make a stand. You can argue we lost Vietnam - I believe we did - but you can also argue that if we didn't make a stand in Vietnam, communism would been bold enough to strike out in Europe... So yeah, we were fighting for our freedom in Vietnam in a way.