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Old 05-27-2013, 08:31 PM  
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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 View Post
^ The irony in that post is incredible. People are broke because of tubes. The same tubes that bankroll AK and the same tubes that AK bends over backwards to support.
There is no doubt tubes changed this industry, however to place the large DMCA compliant tubes in the same category as file lockers like Hotfile, Netload, DepositFiles or File Factory shows that you have a fundamental lack of understanding about the depth of copyright infringement and illegal activity in this space.

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It's hilarious watching him talk about going after file lockers that nobody has ever heard of, and "usenet servers" (every single one of which, that anyone has heard of, is taking Paypal as normal) and now ad networks. Anything but sub-100 Alexa tubes that millions of people visit every single day.
The facts are that the big tubes are mostly DMCA compliant, they do not charge for access to user uploaded content, they do not pay rewards to uploaders of content and they do not run huge threads on piracy forums enticing pirates to uploaded pirate content.

On the contrary, many large tubes pay large amounts of money to licence an enormous
quantity of high quality content. Just because you see full scenes and whole DVD's on a tube site does not mean that's pirated content, in fact it probably is licensed.

Free porn via tubes has no doubt hurt many smaller and medium sized players in the porn industry, there is no denying that. However the fact is that in the main, they are compliant with the law and as long as they remain so there is nothing I can do about them.

When we have the financial accounts of file lockers terminated, we are able to do so because we can demonstrate a non compliance with the law. We can't just point at a site we don't like and say "shut them down". We need to provide tangible evidence of illegal activity.

It's also worth noting that once Oron, Hotfile, File Factory and Deposit Files were all file lockers nobody had heard of.

Ultramegabit has been running for a year, it is now a serious problem. It does not take very long for a file locker nobody had heard of to become a substantial piracy venue that takes away income from every honest webmaster.

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It's nice that he's sincerely thinking so much about the children too. I'm sure the record of tubes on hosting underage porn is as pristine as their record on hosting stolen content.
When we detect possible illegal content on file lockers we collect as much evidence as we can and use that evidence to provide a case for terminating the payment processing of that file locker.

We have reporting mechanisms available for rights holders to make complaints about all sorts of sites, the only tube of any reasonable size which we have had reported as carrying potentially illegal content is MOTHERLESS.COM

If you have evidence of any others then please provide it to us.

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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
I don't know...once AK starts the ball rolling on advertisers on pirated content losing their billing...that could DEFINITELY be extended to tube sites. I'd love to see that happen.
I don't see any tube sites on our radar other than Motherless.com as described above. Until rights holders start providing us tangible evidence then there isn't much we can do.

It's all very well to make complaints on this forum but for us to do anything about any site we need evidence and lots of it.

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Originally Posted by tokmansta View Post
He is being paid by a tube ower, why would he do that?
Up to now I have been paid nothing. I have worked on this project without taking any salary. It's important to make that clear, we have run on a cost recovery basis only and run very close to the bone.
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