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Old 06-07-2013, 05:37 PM  
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Originally Posted by Far-L View Post
Peabody, now you went and done gone and smoked way too much weed. You are tripping.

First, I think you are the first person in the known online universe to ever say that you think CCbill has a better form layout for conversions than Epoch does. Most people I know that have seriously tested and analyzed each would say Epoch performs better. The only programs I know that put CCbill ahead in a cascade are, well, um, programs that don't actually test but just follow the CCbill herd imho.

Second, considering how much data Epoch has to draw from to make decisions of this magnitude which would stand to impact their entire processing portfolio you should perhaps give Rand a titch more credit for the effort they make "taking the scalpel" to this part of their operations.

Third, I don't know where you stand in relation to the rest of their clients but if this was something that was effecting every Epoch client don't you think there would've been a major uproar?

Sorry if this comes off sort of harsh - just playing devil's advocate, and as Swirlsgirl can tell you, all the "middlemen" processors are the devil.
I actually love how no one actually READS what the fuck I'm saying half the time and from Far-L I expected better than to have to recap (not to be harsh). But here goes (again):

1. I use my own customized CCBill join forms that are based on the (old) Epoch forms. This is a de facto ackowledgement that the Epoch forms are WAY better than the standard CCBill join forms (which I do not use). Once these custom CCBill forms where implemented I saw sales rise by 30%.

2. You better than anyone Far-L should know that small(er) programs can often benefit from NOT being like the masses. This is our advantage. So what often works for a larger company does not work for me. And again (and again) I was just ASKING to see if others are experiencing what I'm seeing with these new forms, thereby agreeing that my own experiences may be, well, my own.

3. Many use Epoch as a secondary processer, as I do, so perhaps many have not spotted the changes in the join forms. I have not seen any other threads about it. But if there was a problem others who use Epoch as primary would probably say something so this is what I am asking, if others have seen the same things.

(And I use CCBill as my Affiliate Program because the majority of my affiliates prefer CCBill. I have asked and this is always the response i get.)

I just want my old Epoch join forms back and Epoch is going to try and make that happen.
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