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Old 06-10-2013, 03:29 AM  
Paul
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Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post
i don't recall any black boxes being required by law to be installed on isp's after 9/11.

i do recall there was the surveliance act, they were monitoring foreign phone calls. then later there was the warrantless wiretapping, which consequential issues led to the end of that program.

i think we are on the same page though eh, this is a whole nother lever. people need to be all atwitter about this. obama is already on the defensive about it.
Sorry my mistake, this law came out in the UK before 9/11

Regulation Of Investigatory Powers Act 2000

Also more good into about it here

Yes we are on the same page! It's absolutely terrifying if you sit and think about the wide spread implications down the line if our governments become more authoritarian.

No need for a trial if you've been accused or doing something wrong, all laid out infront of you in black and white

Also a great way to blackmail/manipulate people in the future if there is anything they've ever looked at or regretted doing online.

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Originally Posted by Socks View Post
If you're good with computers, the fuck you need a degree for? 9/10 times I would hire the self taught programmer over someone who learned at school.

I know you think you have "nothing to hide" but there are those of us who enjoy a bit of privacy.

Put it this way.. What if it wasn't the "government" listening to your calls, reading your e-mails etc.. But say Los Zetas? Then would you be worried?
Sadly privacy is a thing of the past, just wait until Google glasses take off. Social trends are powerful things, governments have no need to force people to do things anymore when they can socially engineer them into doing what they want.

In 10 years time it won't surprise me if a big percentage of people are permanently wearing some form of augmented reality glasses whether it's Google or some other company and then every single thing you say or do will be recorded.

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The Guardian said Snowden is so worried about surveillance that he pads his hotel room door with pillows to prevent eavesdropping and drapes a hood over his head and laptop to avoid password detection by hidden cameras.
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And if I was him I'd be paranoid too.. You should be especially paranoid at his actions, since he has first hand info on what technologies they're actually using these days to eavesdrop and such.

They said they can understand conversations by pointing a device at a glass pane window and reading the vibrations from a distance.... That's some scary shit.
The crazy thing is, this guy sounds like some deranged Tinfoil hat wearing motherfucker!

But this guy is an authority on the subject as you've mentioned because he's seen first hand what they are capable of doing!
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