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Old 06-12-2013, 12:10 PM  
bigluv
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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
But when they came to my house without reason... I acted with common sense. There are four police officers with shotguns at my front door at 3am. I didn't want to get shot. So I turned on all of the lights, opened the door wide, and treated them with respect.

I don't see what the police did wrong here. They knocked on the door, they said they had a search warrant, they were let in and they searched the house. This is all perfectly legal, and happens thousands of times a day. They didn't bust down the door, they didn't pull her out of the house by her hair, nothing.

FYI I treat police much the same as you do.

You are using "arrest warrant" and "search warrant" interchangeably and I don't believe that's correct.

If I go along with "they had to enter to ensure their safety" (on a cut grass charge, but given she's a lowlife and the neighbourhood is lowlifeville), they still shouldn't have the right to search , which you can see that they obviously did so (to some degree).

Also, if they were so concerned with their safety that they had to enter, then why did they allow her to go from the window to the door. How was it more unsafe the second time around going from the door back inside and to the door? The answer is it wasn't. They were tired of her bullshit and threw their weight around a little, but didn't want to break down the door to begin with because they knew they didn't have a good argument and then they might actually face consequences.

It's not clear cut, but I don't expect cops to enter or search my house without rock solid reasons. Being a dick isn't a good reason. The reason it isn't a good reason is that "being a dick" can end up being a political tool, and it is also subject to much interpretation that does not lend itself to the rule of law.

The real problem is that most people don't a) care if lowlives get their rights trampled on and b) figure it's justified for being a dick because being a dick probably goes along with being a lowlife.

But the whole concept of not maintaining rights for everyone is already a casualty when we start to debate the finer points, and that means that everyone's rights are compromised not just whoever we decide doesn't deserve them.

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