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Originally Posted by Jel
Nope, in fact I almost went bust :D Struggling but hanging on by the skin of my teeth, *but*... I wasn't submitting to all the big tubes; haven't subbed much (if anything) since I redid the landing page; had an experience which showed me how much people WILL still buy porn.
I'm currently working on 2 new paysites (well, one, with the money I get from that being used to get the 2nd up and running - more outlay required but it's gonna be fucking H U G E, believe me), if the 1st one makes any cash, which I fully expect it to) using data from the tubes, as suggested by Ruseful previously.
As much as I hate what the tubes have done, the whole theft aspect of it, the bullshit 'user uploads' that has to be spun out (I mean really, what else does anyone expect them to say? They certainly can't admit it - I see it like telling your lawyer "I didn't do it". They know you fucking did, but who in their right mind is going to come out and admit it, especially given how lucrative it is), the expectation from surfers it has bred where 90% of people will NEVER pay for porn again, google giving a criminal operation credence because 'now we don't steal, we are awesome yo', and so on that has already been done to death here and elsewhere... the fact is, tubes have the traffic, and by whatever law of whatever, means they also have the paying traffic. And I want paying traffic.
I may not like it, and indeed I still have a rant now about it every so often, but for me, these are the facts:
tubes own the vast majority of paying adult traffic
I want paying traffic
If I don't adapt, I die
So, I've been quietly learning, using rusefuls advice; doing other stuff in the meantime to stay afloat, and waiting for my opportunity(ies), which are now nearing the building/marketing stage. I'm actually far more optimistic now than I was 12 months ago. I'll never be a tube fanboy, but I'm way past being a hater and wasting my focus/energy/attention on shit I can't change. Change the things you can 
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Congrats on the optimism!! Being positive is the only way to go if you want long-term success.
Hit me up if you ever want to discuss paysites and tubes.
The thing about JT/Ruseful which gets under people's skin is his BRAGGING about how well he's doing, using his oh-so-innovative strategy of "give the tubes everything they want". The real problem for me? I have a VERY VERY VERY hard time believing that ALL the growth Ruseful brags about - going from 11 to 60 employees, 20,000 Members, etc - that ALL THAT came from posting longer videos on tube sites. IF this were true then wouldn't Met-Art, X-Art, and the great Peabody's own ErosExotica being doing THOUSANDS of joins?
Makes no sense because I believe - it's just my BELIEF now, no proof - my BELIEF that Ruseful's success has a lot more to do with special deals with friends/tubes then merely posting videos.
JT: What is your Revshare with these tubes? 50-50? Do you do PPS? If so, how much? Do you buy joins? Do you advertise on the tubes? If so, how much per month? Do you make more profit from advertising than from postings?
This kind of shit. When something doesn't add up....well, draw your own conclusions. Congrats to the Winners.