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Old 06-26-2013, 05:13 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda View Post
I'm divorced and I did dishonor my vows.. at the time of my marriage I was a using drug addict... would you consider a using drug addict as a person to get into a business relationship with?

what's with you anyway? why are you blowing things to an extreme example to make me look foolish? I will say you are very polite about it which is a real breath of fresh air considering the behaviors of the other like minded individuals here at GFY who immediately resort to low quality name calling if anyone dare to disagree with their opinion.

and honestly I didn't make a conscious decision to not have unfaithful friends... I have very few close relationships, so when I examined my relationships I found the my close friends were all faithful in the marriages and had been since the beginning of the marriages.

the one exception is my friend that is a swinger, as a coupe their relationship is so weird I have no idea what is going on and BTW they are divorced at this time.

I apologize if this doesn't meet you standards of bigoted behaviors or paint me in a negative light, this is just the plain old truth
I am just trying to point out that life is complex. Human relationships are complex. These things, obviously, I don't need to tell you, but sometimes people like to speak in absolutes and I find myself wanting to point out that sometimes those absolutes aren't as absolute as they might think.

In the end, the reality is that throughout this debate we likely aren't going to change each other's minds. For you, there is a problem with two gay people getting married and calling it a marriage. I think they should be allowed to call it a marriage. To me it is just a word, but to you, and others, the word holds some kind of value that you feel would be reduced if gays were able to use it.

I have always felt that the language is fluid. Things changes. Words take on new and different meanings over time and when we allow ourselves to get bogged down in the details of certain things it holds us back from moving forward. If you look at how we speak and write now as compared to as little as 100 years ago it is very different. Never mind comparing it to 500 or 1000 years ago.

I prefer to remain polite. I respect other's opinions and I feel, in the end, it is a free country and we all entitled to feel how we want to feel. Calling someone names or being an ass to someone isn't going to help me prove my point or disprove theirs. Just because I don't agree with someone on some point doesn't mean I hate then, nor do I want them to hate me so I try to respect other's points of view while trying to make the case for why I feel I am correct in whatever matter is being discussed. Civil, intelligent debate is a good, healthy thing.
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