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Originally Posted by Phoenix
you talk as if the suffering of gay people is something new that just started this year.
often times tortured in the worst ways just because.
used as cannon fodder...bait...worked to death...enslaved.
i would say they have had their share of bad treatment.
just because you do not know about it, doesn't make it so.
i do like how you weigh into an argument fully though as if you were informed.
well played.
oh and to the genetic Einstein above....gay people to do not just choose to suck dick one day....holy fuck how do you even login to the net?
I would wager it is a fuck of a lot easier to be a black man in then it is to be a gay man.
But what do i know..i'm just a white Canadian boy from way up north.
Keep talking though, i love when smart people post.  |
Historically speaking "gay" wasn't even an issue, or even a particular distinction, for several millennia. Even the modern religions didn't start going after gays until only fairly recently in terms of the span of human history.
Also, when you look at someone, you don't automatically think "gay or straight" (unless of course you have gaydar...) but I bet you do see black as black and for a lot of people have a reaction, even involuntarily, due to so much negative stereotyping in our culture towards blacks. Even anti-gay people don't look at a gay person and think they are going to be robbed, raped, and murdered the way so many people, even those that on the surface of things would never admit to being race phobic, do when they see a black person.
I am not saying gays haven't been unjustly persecuted at all. The Nazis killed the pornographers and the gays before they got around to the Jews, for example. Gays have been lynched and murdered across the globe so I definitely am not saying that they haven't had their fair share of civil rights abuses on which to base the context of the statements that sparked your neighbor's reaction.
Think about it this way... a gay person is free to choose to hide their sexuality but a black person is always going to be a slave to their skin color, so in terms of persecution, any kind of discrimination or hate, one group can choose to avoid it while the other cannot.
You know, the ironic thing, all of what I am saying and the point I am trying to make, was imparted to me by a gay black man.
