Originally Posted by dyna mo

this is exactly why snowden's handling this has distorted the issues. we're on a tangent in your thread that was supposed to be about the british snoopers are even worse than the us.

misson accomplished snowden!

certainly you would agree that he is to blame for this. regardless of what anyone *thinks* would happen to him, solitariy confinment, the worst shit they did to manning, so what, because if he was truly genuine he would have stayed here and sat in his private room and gone from there.

didn't he think of that prior? certainly, that's why he ran.

fact is, manning is alive. don't get me wrong, he's been through it, as i understand it, but his case is military and we can go ahead and debate the differences that makes if you want, but i'd rather get back to your original topic.

Originally Posted by crockett

With Snowden latest release its said that the British equlivant to Prisim called Tempora is the first "grab everything".
m.theage.com.au/world/snowden-reveals-australias-links-to-us-spy-web-20130708-2plyg.html