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Originally Posted by Robbie
ADG... A lot of the political heat for this is simple:
Obama never gave a press conference over the gun running to Mexico that was done by his ATF and never gave a press conference to talk about our govt. agent who was murdered by those guns
He never gave a single press conference about our diplomats being killed in Benghazi
He hasn't given a press conference about the IRS targeting people.
He hasn't given a press conference about the NSA spying on people.
He doesn't give a press conference on the multitude of young blacks being shot dead in Chicago where his crony and former Chief Of Staff Rahm Emanuel is mayor.
Yet he felt compelled to interject himself in a criminal case from Sanford Fla.
Yes, there is a "race problem" in the U.S.
But it isn't that white (or "white/hispanic") people are hunting down black teenagers like animals...THE problem is black people killing black people.
Wonder why he didn't call a press conference for that? Or why it happens everyday and doesn't make the news.
No, we don't know the names of any of the scores of young black men who have been shot dead every day by other black men. But we all know Trayvon's name.
THAT is racism. And it doesn't address any "problem".
The problem is black on black crime. But it's too "sensitive" to be able to be discussed because if you point out the facts...you are a "racist".
Isn't that damn convenient?
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The "Black on Black Crime" red herring has been getting lots of play by the right-wing, so I will address that.
First though, Obama addressed all of the issues which you alluded to (video proof below).
Obama on Fast and Furious:
Obama on Benghazi:
Obama on IRS:
Obama on NSA:
Obama on Chicago gun violence:
To your main point about "Black on Black violence" being the "real" problem:
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Trayvon Martin and the Red Herring of "Black on Black" Crime
Although I am convinced today that the death of Trayvon Martin was not because of his race, and that the jury reached a correct verdict in declaring George Zimmerman "not guilty," I also feel the people raising the issue of "black on black" crime (and saying it is ignored in a way that white on black crime isn't) are being disingenuous.
The protests must be seen through the lens of the racism and violence that young black men face as they grow up in America. To not recognize centuries of black deprivation and the challenge of growing up black in the U.S. as the backdrop to these scenes is at best to be naive and at worst to be hypocritically negligent.
On its face, the argument that most blacks are killed by fellow blacks appears perfectly valid. However, peel off the skin and there is no question: Beneath the surface you will discover that the people raising the issue are not saying this out of concern for the black population, but rather in an effort to paint the black community as a group that has no problem with crime, unless the alleged criminal is white or non-black.
The fact is, "black on black" crime is no more common than "white on white" crime and "Chinese on Chinese" crime or "Latino on Latino" crime. The statistics are there if you care -- most murders are intraracial.
Did you know 86 per cent of white victims were killed by white offenders?
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Black-on-black? red herring sustains false narrative
Don?t white people kill each other, too?
And yet we keep hearing about black-on-black crime because it fits the false media narrative.
When it comes to America?s racial past and present, lies and snake oil are sold in many colors.
In the wake of the Trayvon Martin tragedy, conservatives in media have sought to deflect from the racism and racial profiling that precipitated his untimely death by referencing the broader social malaise of supposed ?black-on-black violence.?
On ?This Week on ABC,? Washington Post columnist George Will said that despite the Trayvon tragedy, ?150 black men are killed every week in this country,? and ?about 94 percent of them by other black men.?
Will parroted arguments made by many conservatives, his intended point being that black-on-black crime remains the real problem our nation should address. The half-truth he spoke went curiously unchallenged by the panel largely because the meta-narrative of black-on-black violence is widely accepted in journalistic and political circles.
Bill O?Reilly, the Fox News host and one-man propaganda machine, recently interviewed Columbia University professor Marc Lamont Hill to discuss similar claims from Wall Street Journal contributor Shelby Steele, who wrote in ?The Exploitation of Trayvon Martin? that ?black teenagers are afraid of other black teenagers, not whites.? O?Reilly vehemently defended Steele?s premise that the Trayvon Martin case is an anomaly.
?Blacks today are nine times more likely to be killed by other blacks than by whites,? Steele wrote. He went on to attack Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for ?exploiting? Trayvon?s death in an effort to promote a ?liberal? agenda ? a point that O?Reilly was all too happy to expound.
Steele?s perspective, though myopic and misguided, remains pervasive and embedded in the broader social consciousness. This red-herring approach is not new, but in the face of Trayvon?s death, these obstructive tactics require an equal and opposite response.
What Will, Steele and O?Reilly failed to mention is the exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.
In fact, all races share similar ratios. Yet there?s no outrage or racialized debate about ?white on white? violence. Instead, the myth and associated fear of ?black on black? crime is sold as a legitimate, mainstream descriptive and becomes American status quo.
The truth? As the largest racial group, whites commit the majority of crimes in America. In particular, whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led blacks, again, 2-1.
Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage blacks to begin shooting suspicious white males in their neighborhoods for fear that they?ll be raped, assaulted or murdered? Perhaps George Zimmerman?s defenders should answer that question. If blacks were to act as irrationally as Zimmerman did, would any rationale suffice to avoid arrest for so long?
The term ?black-on-black? crime is a destructive, racialized colloquialism that perpetuates an idea that blacks are somehow more prone to violence. This is untrue and fully verifiable by FBI, Department of Justice and census data. Yet the fallacy is so fixed that even blacks have come to believe it.
Trayvon Martin?s tragic death reveals the worst ills at play within America?s criminal-justice system. Not only was he murdered in large part because of dangerous, persistent stereotypes, but the failure of police to judiciously respond to the crime underscores the inequities that characterize institutionalized racism.
Those who respond to the tragedy by retreating to narratives of black-on-black crime seek to promote it as a defense against an innocent child?s violent homicide. This reveals how entrenched the lies have become and how eager too many people are to absolve both Zimmerman?s guilt and their own tacit consent.
Black media and policymakers have been equally complicit in promoting a ?black-on-black crime? anecdote, thinking that it could help address some of the community?s problems; but what it has actually done is provide support for racial profiling and promote the disproportionate policing of black criminality as ?legitimate? and ?acceptable.? This overpolicing has led to disproportionately higher rates of arrests in black communities, reinforcing the idea that blacks commit more crimes.
If we were to talk about ?white-on-white crime,? then at least we?d be addressing issues such as gun violence in a racially neutral way. That doesn?t happen because too many Americans remain convinced that black or brown people are the problem. Respected journalists such as George Will further perpetuate lies as fact when they make blanket statements that support an ill-conceived narrative.
It seems that the media in general and white American society in particular prefer to focus on crime perpetrated by blacks because it serves as a way to absolve them from the violence, prejudice and institutionalized discrimination engendered for generations against blacks. It offers a buffer against responsibility, a way to shift blame and deflect cause and effect. But the truth, and numbers, tell a different story.
The myth of black-on-black violence has become a stain on the sociopolitical consciousness and indelibly imbues mindsets as well as public policy. At the heart of an increasingly violent society is not a subculture among blacks but the violence and criminality of many Americans, and whites in particular. No one seems to speak about this. Why? Because the snake oil was duly purchased and consumed. It is time for race-based pseudo-facts to be challenged and dismantled.
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Anyway, since you have given so much thought to the issue, and if you are genuinely concerned about Black on Black violence, then what are your proposals to help curb Black on Black violence?
ADG
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