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Old 07-19-2013, 10:29 PM  
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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
I think Zimmerman had his firearm out shortly after he left his truck. According to Zimmerman's statement presented at the trial, Zimmerman said Martin was on top of him hitting him when Zimmerman was magically able to pull out a firearm from underneath him that was in a holster tucked in his waistband?

Let me rephrase that. Zimmerman had his firearm in a holster in his waistband under his jacket behind him, and he was able to pull his firearm out while Martin was on top of him hitting him?

You betcha.

Zimmerman already had his gun out.
And how exactly do YOU prove that? Because the prosecution, you know those guys whose job it is to prove that to a jury, couldn't. There's a reason why gut feelings and personal biases don't have a place in the judicial system you know.




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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
Nope. I believe Martin would have gone to jail.

I'm not saying Martin is innocent here.
And there you have it. If Martin's actions aren't excusable (and they aren't) because his life was NOT in any REAL danger, then he was COMMITTING A FELONY when he ASSAULTED Zimmerman.

Which is WHY the prosecution couldn't use the self-defence/stand your ground angle for Martin.

Because, and try to follow the logic here, you can't claim self-defence if YOU'RE COMMITTING A CRIME. It's why if a bank robber shoots a cop while robbing a bank he can't claim self-defence because the cop was shooting at him first.

See how that works?

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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
But there was no reason to kill him. Zimmerman was the agrressive one, and pursued the kid for no reason, threatening him. Don't give me any shit he feared for his life. He wasn't even hurt.
Oh you're a delight.

You just agreed that a possible deadly attack on the part of Martin couldn't be excused, yet here you are, "assuming" that Zimmerman ran out of the car with his gun cocked, with no evidence to back this up because even YOU realize that the only way to excuse Martin's actions is to demonize Zimmerman.

Now stop and think about this for a minute. If Zimmerman had his gun out, how was Martin able to get on top of him and start beating him?
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