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Old 08-03-2013, 02:53 PM  
winter_
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Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post
and that's exactly why i think snowden is a complete fuckup.

this isn't supposed to be about him. it's supposed to be about the information. but due to snowden being a complete absolute fuckup, it's about whether snowden dies or is a hero.

that's bullshit. what you are all saying is you are accepting the attention about this being diverted from the data collection problem and making it entirely about snowden and whether or not he is a hero or a martyr or a leaker or a whistleblower or a good guy or a bad guy.
but when you think about it it is about snowden and the n.s.a., the united states establishment, both.

that government is in serious trouble and they do it to themselves. corruption is rife in the highest echelons of office, watchdogs keep on watching no barking, fed up moles are coming to ground, all the people who could be helping the anti-war movement, who are the anti-war movement, aren't anymore. not even yoko ono, not even jane fonda, nothing but silence from either of them when we still need them too the most.

more to your point, prism is nothing new, even the social networking sites do this and that is sell your information to the highest bidder, they have been named datamines and of course you will read mark zuckerberg say he doesn't believe in privacy, however he will stop short of saying he doesn't believe in that mighty dollar.
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