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Old 08-25-2013, 01:29 PM  
kane
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To me a larger form of voter fraud is often carried out by those running the elections and the parties involved in them.

Let's go back in time to 2004. John Kerry Vs. George W Bush. It was going to be a close election and likely would come down to a couple of key states. One of those states was Ohio. The person in charge of overseeing the elections in that state also happened to be heavily involved in the Bush's campaign. To me, that right there is a huge conflict of interest. Add into it the mix that he is on record as saying that he would do whatever it took to deliver Ohio to Bush.

About a week or so before election day it is announced that there will be a rule change. In the past if a voter showed up at the wrong precinct the people at that precinct would call the correct one, verify that this person was on the voter rolls there and hadn't already voted then let them vote at the place they were at. They changed that rule. Now the workers at a precinct could look up the correct one for you, but you then had to go there to vote.

The next problem illuminates why that first one is a big deal. In conservative heavy locations there was plenty of voting machines so people could get in and out quickly. Many precincts had an excess of voting machines. In the democrat heavy areas there was a huge shortage. Some large areas were only given a few machines. This caused very long lines.

Put them together and you have issues. Say you accidentally go to the wrong place, stand in line for four hours and then are told you can't vote, you have to go to a different place. You go there and see another four hour long line. Many people would just say fuck it and go home.

Add to this that there were several reports of the votes being counted incorrectly by the machines. For example. There might be a county that had 10,000 registered voters in it. Kerry might get around 4,000 votes. Other 3rd party candidates got a total of 500 between them. So Bush should get around 5,500, but the computer counted his total as 25,000. We are then told it is a glitch and the actual number is being accurately counted. There were several of these glitches that night and none of them ever gave extra votes to anyone but Bush.

Anyway, if you are interested in it there is a book about what happened that night and numerous articles about it. A lot of shady shit went on that night.

I'm not just attacking the republicans here, just using this an example. If we want real laws to protect voting integrity we need to worry less about who has what ID card and do more to regulate how the elections are held, who controls and them and how things are handled. It isn't who votes that matters, it is who counts the votes.
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