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Originally Posted by Jel
As for the colour of the sky analogy - that's apples and oranges. A differently viewed single colour relates to layers of subterfuge, subliminality, and conspiracies, how?
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To address your first point.. yes, that was what I was saying. if you are looking for something and want to see it... you'll see it. But the important point to understand when looking at a nutjob is to first understand that "he saw it"... so its then real to him. You can't argue with them that its not there, it didn't happen and it doesn't exist... anymore than you can walk into a wall and i can then convince you that wall isn't there.
To address the point quoted above...It's not apples and oranges, its perception and understanding and belief. A sane person looks at facts. An insane person is twisting facts into something else. But the key thing to understand is that "something else' those facts were twisted into is also then real to that person.. every bit as real to them as what you understand and believe is real to you.
If look at this pic below and see an old woman and I look at this pic and see a young woman... am i likely to succeed in convincing you that what you see is wrong? Are you likely to succeed in convincing me that I am wrong? Are we both likely to accept we are both right?
My point was that an insane persons perceptions, understandings, interpretations are no less valid to him than yours are to you. So attempting to explain they are wrong and why is a losing proposition. I can explain all day to you that water isn't wet. I can give you 1000 examples and explanations as to why that's fact, its just going to see silly to you. But the inverse is also likely to be true. Complicating this is our own natural tendencies to shun change and the unfamiliar. People instantly resist the notion that they are wrong. That's a defensive response of the brain.
Our interpretations of reality are not based on an objective understanding of what is. Reality is nothing more than a model we've constructed in our own mind or maybe more similar to a map. As with a map, its still based on our own highly subjective interpretation of what we believe is. We can see a road on the map, we know the road goes from a to b. Is the road in good shape or bad? Is the road paved or not? Thats where the "crazy" comes in and where the "crazy" starts filling in the blanks and creates a very distorted map of reality. Our brains use many many different cognitive biases and filters which affect our understanding and our interpretations of whats happening around us. Some people however, have various mental issues, disorders and diseases which even further distort or retard their ability interpret and understand the world around them, but they still have built what they feel is a very accurate model/map of the world in their mind and its every bit as real to them as yours is to you... though theirs might often seem grossly distorted and not at all representative of the world around us.
And I agree. I hate idiots. But we need idiots to make the world work. They world would be a mess if every single person wanted to be a rocket scientist.
I used to be annoyed with crazy people... now I'm just fascinated with them.
