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Old 09-22-2013, 08:49 AM  
Vendzilla
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What changed is the creation of the EPA in 1970 - the only good thing that Nixon ever did. When the EPA was created strict laws on pollution were quickly put into place. In 1990 alone the EPA prevented 205 premature deaths, 672,000 cases of chronic bronchitis, 843,000 cases of asthma attacks, 18 Million cases of child respirator illnesses and a shitload more.

And just in Los Angeles alone, Smog Producing Compounds are down 98% since the 1960's. http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/In...A.-air-quality
The EPA was something that was and still is needed, California goes beyond the EPA

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How to Learn Trigonometry in 9 steps (with pictures) http://www.wikihow.com/Learn-Trigonometry. But what this has to do with why republicans want to stop you from learning science I have no idea.
I was asked if I knew any math, I have always excelled in Math

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All states should follow California.
Only on somethings


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The Volkswagon caddy pickup truck 1.6 Litre engine gets only 34.1 Miles Per gallon, not 50.
I don't know where you got your info, but that's wrong. On the highway, you could get above 50,
http://www.mpgomatic.com/45_MPG_Pickup_Truck.html
Rated at 45 mpg, getting above 50 was pretty easy
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If the government gets involved and says more hybrid or electric cars are required, it is because they have done their research. And in order to boost the sales, they will offer cash incentives and or tax credits to people to buy them the way they do now here in Canada and other places. Here in Quebec, the government pays you $8000 to buy an all electric car. They don't force you to buy one - they just make it damn inviting.
They do the same here, but the only hybrids we got from the money that Obama pumped into it was cars over 40k. Living in California, you would think you would see lots of electric cars, I don't see them very often

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Yes that is a terrible and tragic number for sure, but consider the tens of millions of birds lost to global warming, logging, and the constant ongoing oil disasters. We're talking entire species of birds here. Hopefully someone will figure out a way to reduce the bird deaths caused by wind farms.
I have only seen responsible logging here in California

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So much wrong with this. "They" (the government) will not "make" anyone move to China. If the owner of the company is a cock-sucker like Mitt Romney he would move the company to save a few bucks instead of modernize of course. But the truth is that an investment in modernization to reduce pollution pays off in many different ways in the long term. The Canadian and the US Governments know this and already offer financial incentives to do this : http://www.perkinscoie.com/governmen...ns-09-08-2008/
So you are saying that no companies moved to china?

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Thats right! Arnold Schwarzenegger, the republican you voted for, sold you out.
I'm sorry, have you seen me cheering on the GOP, I don't like them either
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So wrong, Vendzilla, so wrong.

Obama never gave money to any electric car company. The US Department of Energy LOANED $451.8 Million dollars to Tesla in California (An American Company, that employes American workers by the way). Tesla paid-back this loan 9 Years EARLY. Electric and other pollution reduction technologies can be a good investment.

Stop throwing up your hands, man... just dig a little to see whats under the surface and read some facts...

Cheers.
Dig a little deeper, I was talking about the Fisker, the company is from Finland. And they were going to build them in Finland
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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