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Old 09-22-2013, 02:36 PM  
galleryseek
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This is the essence of the conversation - WHY is the Black Libertarian nearly extinct....they are so rare that they are celebrated and given interviews for just being black.

Read and watch all the info you can on the subject of why so few (basically none) minorities self identify as Libertarians. It's shocking the excuse Libertarians seem to come around to: Black people arent smart enough to understand it.
Never once said that.

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You used the terms "analyzed" and "philosophy" for your reason - seems to come up a lot when White Libertarians describe their race problem..I have also heard this "It's an intellectual philosophy" from some popular White Libertarians as the REASON Blacks don't get it.

Bullshit.
People are products of their environment. It just so happens that the black community, at large, is one that currently benefits directly from the hands of the state. Of course they're going to lean left. When you're on the receiving end of "free" goods, I imagine it's hard not to vote in opposition, yes?

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My surgeon is black, and wealthy..You guys claim he's too dumb to understand your petty "Keep your hands off my shit" philosophy?
I know of white doctors too, and they're not libertarians for the same reason black doctors aren't libertarians either; they're preoccupied with their career to take the necessary time required to filter through all of the government/media/conditioning bullshit. You literally have to go through a self-awakening transformation to see the matrix in which you live.

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There is only one reason Libertarians can't recruit African Americans and it's real real simple:

The Libertarian Ideology works DIRECTLY AGAINST the interests of minorities.
It's not just minorities, it's any group that continues to live by the expropriated property of others. And to that I say, tough.

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COOL IDEA! Lets close all the public schools, cancel welfare, end food stamps, end health care assistance, end Federal loans and grants for students, end Federal infrastructure spending, end housing assistance...on and on and on... A black klansman makes about as much sense.
Schools: awesome. Close them. They're government indoctrination centers that aren't focused on education, but rather creating a culture of obedient workers. Obedient workers who produce as much as possible, so they can be taxed as much as possible, so that the ruling classes can profit as much as possible.

Welfare: awesome. Stop it. Rely on your family, your community, and charity until you can get your feet wet. Solving tough times by stealing from others is a poor, immoral solution.

Food stamps: See above point.

Healthcare assistance: See above point.

..on and on and on with your other points.

But what you're failing to realize, is that the government itself creates the environment in which we see a need for these programs. Get rid of government, and no longer will people be so poor and imprisoned. And that's inclusive of any collective.

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Libertarianism, even it's mildest form, is an all out aggression on minorities without really being a racist movement. The only difference between you guys and White Supremacists is that you guys are wealthier and more educated than the skinhead crowd...you guys aren't as directly fueled by racism as them but the net effect of your ideology is all out race war.

Your movement is an intellectual Pro-White war...where as the White Power guys are motivated by emotion and rage. You guys mean well, I really believe that.
This is not about race, religion, or anything else. It's about respect for personal property, including self-ownership and non-aggression. And it can only be to the benefit of every collective, not just whites. Again, government is the biggest culprit one can blame for the current position of minorities.

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It must be a little frustrating to be into a political ideology that will never, ever, gain any traction in our lifetime...It's great fun to fantasize about this utopian state where it's all free will and commerce...only one problem - there are black people here...we brought them as slaves...they had kids. Game over.
That sounds really, really fucking racist bro. "Only one problem, there are black people here." ROFL. As if black people are less capable than whites?

And you know what's Utopian? This myth that we can delegate a few special fairy-winged creatures that will descend from the heavens, call politicians, give them special powers that we don't even believe in ourselves, such as the power to rule over others, to initiate force, to kidnap, to start wars.. Then write down on a piece of paper called the constitutions, a list of things they are not to do.. and then expect them to follow the rules.

That's worked out well for us as a species, hasn't it? Only 600,000,000 dead in the last 100 years directly from their existence.

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BTW that youtube video you posted is absolutely BRILLIANT....in it's slick attempt to coerce people to believe the inverse of reality.
You should learn your terms before you use them.

co·erce
kōˈərs/Submit
verb
1.
persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats.
"they were coerced into silence"
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