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Old 10-13-2013, 09:43 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla View Post
If you find it appalling, I'll let you into what the reason for that is and how Obama fucked himself and made so much harder on himself over Obamacare.

He had no GOP people voting for it, that is the biggest flaw with it. If he would had worked with the GOP and got some of them to approve it, we wouldn't be in this mess. The GOP and the people they represent had no say in it. That's a lot of people all because Barry didn't give a shit to include them.


It was Obama's arrogance that has caused the major divide in Washington and the nation.

If he would had been a leader and got the GOP to back the plan with some small %, all this shit would not be happening. It's all posturing now, the GOP was voted in by people that didn't feel represented
I remember him trying to include them, but they had nothing of value to offer. There was even one meeting where the republicans stood up and walked out of it. Had the shoe been on the other foot and the democrats walked out of a meeting with a republican president the republicans would have lost their minds and exploded over how disrespectful it was.

Here is summery of the republican suggested healthcare bill. It basically looks just like Obamacare without the mandate.

Obama realized there was no way he was going to get GOP approval. Since he took office the republican strategy and basically been if "Obama is for it, they are against it" no matter what. It didn't matter what he said or did he was never going to get them go along with it and he knew it so he bypassed them.

They were already butthurt about getting their asses handed to them in 2008, then when they won back the house in 2010 it emboldened them and made them feel like their "against anything Obama wants" strategy was working so they have just continued on with it.

The reason we are here now is that there no more kicking the can down the road. Obamacare is starting so this is their last stand and they know it. If they can't get it changed or defunded now they know their only hope of getting that done will be in 2016 and likely only then if they can win the white house and hold both the house and senate. This is their Alamo.
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