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Originally Posted by mikesouth one nation under surveillance

Gawd, that is so close to the truth.

In the era of the 1960s and 1970s it was even worse. J. Edgar Hoover's FBI had all sorts of lists and illegal wiretaps domestically and god knows what the CIA was doing.

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Originally Posted by Rochard All countries do this. If you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself. Germany has the Bundesnachrichtendienst, which has three hundred locations in Germany and "other countries". If they aren't spying on other countries, why are they there?

To think otherwise is naïve as hell ...


Snowden's revelations do not surprise me and will have little effect on national security or on national "spying" policy. The allegations just bring public attention to a very long term governmental policy of spying on people. (Long term like back to ancient times.) Tempest in a teapot really.