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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
HUH? Local police at the FISA Court?
ACLU v. Clapper
https://www.aclu.org/national-securi...pper-complaint
Oral argument on the ACLU?s motion for a preliminary injunction and the government?s motion to dismiss is scheduled for November 22 in New York.
https://www.aclu.org/national-securi...-call-tracking
So, if the second time is the charm it's all over. If not -- be careful who you talk to the G is listening -- and I don't mean Google.
Nothing is illegal until you get caught -- mass interception of even the meta-data of domestic telephone calls, by persons in the US without a warrant is illegal and unconstitutional.
This has been in the federal courts since June 11, 2013 -- still pending
"The ACLU's 2008 lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the FISA Amendments Act, which authorized the so-called ?warrantless wiretapping program,? was dismissed 5?4 by the Supreme Court in February 2013 on the grounds that the plaintiffs could not prove that they had been monitored. The ACLU does not believe the issue of standing to be a problem in ACLU v. Clapper because of the FISC order showing that the NSA is collecting the telephone records of all Verizon Business customers ? including the ACLU."
Snooping on foreign communications is another issue -- diplomacy has its role there.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
Your second article:
https://www.aclu.org/national-securi...-call-tracking
Is about a lawsuit questioning the law, not saying anyone violated it.
The ACLU has filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the National Security Agency?s mass collection of Americans? phone records. The complaint argues that the dragnet, justified by the Patriot Act?s Section 215, violates the right of privacy protected by the Fourth Amendment as well as the First Amendment rights of free speech and association.
So you are just wasting my time posting up links about lawsuits not about someone breaking the law, but instead trying to define what the law is.
Frankly, I honestly don't give a shit. I signed up for a UPS account today and had to cough up my name and address. Son of a bitch, they asked me an odd group of questions like "which street did you not live on" and it lists five streets, four of which I did in fact live on. Your data, your information.... Is already out there. Companies of years and years of data on you before you turn 18.