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Originally Posted by Jel
what cracks me up in this thread is intelligent people who think the issue is that people are naive if they think this sort of thing doesn't happen, rather than the real issue being that it happens, regardless if 1, some, many, or all are doing it.
I never thought I'd use the term brainwashed by governments on a board like gfy, but holy fuck, it's jaw-dropping to see. Goes hand in hand (and this really isn't any kind of dig at those who are patriotic - it's a dig at those who make sure you think you need to be, overly so) with the way most americans are brought up regarding patriotism - from how many outside the US observe it, anyway. This mantra that you need to 'serve' your country no matter what, even if that service is believing the bullshit it feeds you so it can do what it needs to: stay in power another term.
Here's what anyone 'owes' their country: fuck all. Especially not some roll over and tickle my tummy blind loyalty no matter what.
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That people are naive for thinking that it doesn't happen and that it's an issue that it happens at all aren't mutually exclusive arguments. That spying is an "issue" is also an issue of degrees, in the real world without rainbow shitting unicorns some level of spying is necessary, it's an emergent property of human interaction, the argument is really about what that level and on whom should be.