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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
That people are naive for thinking that it doesn't happen and that it's an issue that it happens at all aren't mutually exclusive arguments. That spying is an "issue" is also an issue of degrees, in the real world without rainbow shitting unicorns some level of spying is necessary, it's an emergent property of human interaction, the argument is really about what that level and on whom should be.
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Maybe I shoulda worded it that it blows my mind how people in general go from 1 thing into another to gloss over the 1st issue. And yeah, though surely this particular discussion is about specifically tapping merkel's phone. Well, it should be, but obviously it was never going to stay about that after about the 5th post, where the normal deflection/sidetracking/etc comes in, because that's just what people do.
It was late for me when posting and I guess I let my frustration at seeing how pretty much every argument/discussion pans out, out.
Carry on everyone
