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Old 10-26-2013, 08:20 AM  
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer View Post
38 countries are pretending to be pissed because their voters expect them to react as such. This information was brought to the public attention by a 3rd party, and as such, politicians have to respond with shock and indignation and feign outrage as it is now hard to spin into something it isn't. It's silly theater for the ignorant masses as all matters relating to state security and espionage made public tend to be.

All countries spy. All countries gather intelligence legally and illegally to the best of their ability. All enemies spy on each other. All allies spy on each other. Germany spies on the US just as all other EU countries do.

The only crime in espionage is getting caught. Getting caught demonstrates that one party bested the other and the "offended" party must feign shock for the public as it provides absolute proof of their own ineptitude with which they manage their own security. After all, what does it say to the public about their leaders which can't provide their own head of state with a secure phone line.

The true crime is the degree to which the stupid and naive masses feel their misguided and ill informed opinions be heard and the unbridled ignorance and naivete with which they express them. Only a fist full of people know ALL the facts and that is the people who executing the operations and analyzing data. Those who allege themselves to be victims, often know very little and have very few facts. And further, the public only knows in these matters what both parties want them to know.

.... jmho
Very, very true.

And yet people are up in arms thinking that our government is spying on ourselves. At the very same time, no one can produce a single link to an article that proves the US was spying on it's own citizens illegally. How long has Snowden been on the run? How many documents has he released?

All Barry has is links to the ACLU trying to shoot down the law. No one has ever been arrested, and the only one who has broken the law is Snowden.

Don't get me wrong. I am sure it happens. But there isn't an entire division of the NSA that intentionally violates the US constitution on a daily basis. If the US government believes someone in the US is violating the law, it get a warrant and does what it needs to do.
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