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Originally Posted by baddog Bullshit. And not everyone has to have a car.

They have to buy public liability insurance here. I think the law is the same in California on mandatory motor vehicle insurance. In fact, I pay extra for uninsured motorist liability coverage in case I am in an accident with an uninsured motorist. 1 in 3 motorists are driving without insurance around here they say. And in fact, I pay $186 per insured vehicle a year into a catastrophic medical expense fund to pay medical expenses if I am involved with an auto accident -- my own limit in this fund is excess of $530,000 per claim my own health insurer pays up to that amount. That's the law in this state and the assessment is mandatory in any auto insurance policy you buy.

What is the alternative? Anarchy on the roads? It's heading that way here actually.

I could give a rats ass about the high living costs in California -- I lived there for 8 years (note the past tense). Anyway, if you make $80K a year and can't afford $285 for healthcare insurance too fucking bad.

8% of your income is the point of exemption, on $80K that is $6,400.00 a year or $533.34 a month -- Congress voted that a reasonable amount. Considering the taxation rate in countries with "universal healthcare" VAT 18% - 28%, income taxes personal and corporate -- their universal healthcare is hardly free to people and business earning any real money ... Why we should expect different is perplexing.