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Originally Posted by DamianJ
You said there was no evidence of the NSA spying on US citizens. There is. I wasn't debating if it was done with a court order or not. I said it was happening, you said there was no evidence.
But if you want some evidence of the illegal spying, then try this
"The document below is the full text of a brief article from the Oct. 12, 2011 edition of the Top Secret ?SSO News,? an NSA electronic newsletter. It includes the first confirmation ? and the only known details ? of an Oct. 3, 2011 ruling in which the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held that the NSA was using illegal methods to collect and handle the emails and other internet communications of American citizens "
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/pag...isa-court/393/ |
Once again, another link to another document that doesn't prove anything.
This is a summary of an eighty page OPINION (Jesus fucking Christ, it uses those exact words in the document itself: "opinion") of a Judge that orders the NSA to stop a method of data collection unless it makes certain changes. It doesn't say anything illegal was done, it doesn't say anyone needs to be brought up on charges, it doesn't say the NSA needs to remove this method, only that changes need to be made.
Then... This wasn't something Snowden exposed, this wasn't something the NSA was caught doing, this was... Something the NSA discovered during an internal audit, and then brought to the court asking for an opinion. The NSA asked for this to be reviewed, and the court ordered certain changes to ensure it was legal.
At this point, this is no longer what the NSA is doing or who is spying on who. This is about the herd mentality that jumps on the bandwagon on accepts something as fact when it might not be. This is the perfect example. Damian accepts this document as proof positive that the NSA has broken the law, but he didn't even other to read the document. You all read the headlines but never the document - it says right there in the second sentence that this is an eighty page opinion (that was REQUESTED by the NSA).