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Old 11-09-2013, 11:02 PM  
bean-aid
So Fucking Banned
 
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: the land of woke sleuths
Posts: 16,493
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd View Post
I would never give billing control of my company over to someone else Beaner. Besides, then YOU would be the dreaded "3rd party biller", which I find quite ironic.

Also Beaner, you have no idea the volume my business does compared to your experience with a single amateur interracial cuckold site. So sorry my friend but no thanks. Not to be rude but I am absolutely more than capable of handling merchant accounts (and all that goes with it) on my own.

Also, for the record, I have absolutely done "rebills only" as a business model (my first 2 years in business), have offered $1, $2.95 and $5 trials before (all with little success), and have experience with many differant types of join options (SMS, phone, check, etc). So I come to these conclusions through trial-and-error experience and (most importantly of ALL) A-B testing.

You know neither my history nor the size of my operation nor the scope of my traffic. But thanks for the offer.
Fair enough... you have never had control of your join form though. And that is the biggest problem.
Not sure how I would be a third party... we just throw the forms up on your site, doesn't matter.

I will leave with this statement from someone else:
you're a fucking idiot, shut up.

here's a post of mine from 2005:

Quote:
CC Bill -
Uniques 7849
Sales 3
Ratio 1:2616

VXS Billing -
Uniques 6586
Sales 18
Ratio 1:366
Same site, switched to it's own billing. 900% increase. Down to basically, turning off a scrub.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19848447&postcount=136

There is a lot of truth to it... I've seen it now in mainstream, seen it in adult.
I don't think it is the scrub though that would make those numbers increase... actually I know it's not. The scrub (or lack of) certainly helps, but from my experience that is not the *BIGGIE*.

I tried though
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