Fair enough... you have never had control of your join form though. And that is the biggest problem.
Not sure how I would be a third party... we just throw the forms up on your site, doesn't matter.
I will leave with this statement from someone else:
you're a fucking idiot, shut up.
here's a post of mine from 2005:
Quote:
CC Bill -
Uniques 7849
Sales 3
Ratio 1:2616
VXS Billing -
Uniques 6586
Sales 18
Ratio 1:366
Same site, switched to it's own billing. 900% increase. Down to basically, turning off a scrub.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19848447&postcount=136
There is a lot of truth to it... I've seen it now in mainstream, seen it in adult.
I don't think it is the scrub though that would make those numbers increase... actually I know it's not. The scrub (or lack of) certainly helps, but from my experience that is not the *BIGGIE*.
I tried though
