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Originally Posted by BFT3K
Washington is chock-full of hypocrisy, no doubt. The difference is however, that as IDIOTIC as W's agenda was, the Dems let almost all of his retarded plans get through. They did not shut down the government and stop the wheels of America, just because they thought his plans were fucking terrible... although in hindsight, perhaps they should have.
In addition, the "filibuster" has not "always been an important part of govt. since the beginning" as you stated, as it is not even part of the constitution.
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1. That is because (as I stated) Bush is a leader. Yeah, so was Hitler. lol
But Obama is NOT a leader at all. That is why even thought the Democrat Party was up in arms (and rightfully so) over the 2000 election...he was able to charm them and negotiate with them and pretty much get his way with them. Clinton did the same thing to the Republican Congress. Obama is too aloof and arrogant. That is what I am saying. He's a horrible executive.
2. As for the filibuster. Yes, it has always been part of the procedures in Congress. And even BEFORE Congress. Google it up and educate yourself. Or better yet, just listen to what both Obama and Harry Reid say out of their own mouths about it being around since the beginning and what a bad idea it would be to get rid of it.
My personal feeling on the filibuster is that it should be kept. But NOT when it comes to Presidential appointees. When one party stops a presidential appointee (remember Robert Bork?), it is almost always POLITICS. The President has pissed off the opposing party bad enough that they want to punish him.
I think that's bullshit. Especially when so many positions need to be filled.
They should have "tweaked" the filibuster. Took it out of the equation for approving appointees and kept it for general legislation. Without the threat of the filibuster the minority party gets screwed. And so do the millions of people who voted for them. They no longer have that "ace in the hole" that compels most Presidents to negotiate (Obama being the exception because he never has negotiated).
I'm afraid that sooner of later you will see Harry Reid crying about the lack of a filibuster when the Republicans are eventually back in the majority again.
It was a dumb move in my opinion. Shortsighted to say the least and a last ditch attempt to give Obama some chance of pulling his failed Presidency (in my opinion) out of the shitter.
It could all have been avoided by a little give and take from Obama with the Republicans.
But as I said...he's no leader.