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Old 11-23-2013, 07:33 AM  
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
bronco67, that's why I said it should be tweaked. Not done away with. The Dems will rue the day when the tables are turned and they are the minority party and powerless.

And as for Obama...he has not shown the ability to reach across in the same way that Reagan, Clinton, and Bush did.

He's sort of like Bush Sr., floundering and ineffective.

The Dems have cut off their nose to spite their face by going "nuclear". Because eventually...they will be the minority party. And then Reid will be like McConnell is now...a minority leader with absolutely NO power at all.

That was never meant to be like that in our govt.

The Senate and Congress are not supposed to just rubber stamp what the President wants. They are supposed to threaten, cajole, and finally negotiate.

If you've followed the news and seen what the Obama admin has done over the past 5 years...they have not let the Republicans in on anything. No negotiating. No seat at the table, etc.

That's just bad leadership.

That is why Reagan, Clinton, and Bush DID get the other side to work with them.

Obama is just too aloof and arrogant and has no idea of how to be a leader.

And his faithful followers seem to just scream "racism" every time.
To me it's just amazing that they can't see the truth of the matter.

Obama has polarized Washington D.C.
Every vote now is a party line vote.
Bipartisanship is gone.

And the "left" blames the "right" for ALL of it.

I got news for you...I've been around a while. And my experience in life is:
It takes 2 to tango.

Obama has brought this on himself. Action and reaction.

He can scream "obstructionist" at Republicans all day long. But at the end of the day...HE is the President. HE is the one who is supposed to be the master negotiator and bring both parties together.

Instead he has pushed them further apart than any President in recent history.
Ok Robbie...in the history of the United states, 168 presidential nominees for various positions in the government have been blocked.

Up until Obama, 86 have been blocked. So that's 82 under Obama. If you think that's just bad leadership, then you're bullshitting yourself and everyone else. Anyone who's half a dipshit could see there's an axe to grind on the Republican side.

This bad leadership thing you talk about is such an abstract concept anyway. There's a lot of people who would say the opposite. Hating Obama -- which you're entitled to -- is no reason to discount logic.

Can you say that the 86 vs 82 is a statistic that doesn't blow your mind? Were talking about 220 years vs 5 years.
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