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Old 12-12-2013, 04:28 AM  
kane
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Originally Posted by bhutocracy View Post
I don't think I've seen anything so willfully misinformed for ages. Obama is basically a moderate corporate republican. It's just that he's a moderate corporate republican from 25 years ago. You can't move a party to the loony right with an insurgent radical wing over a couple of years and then complain that Obama doesn't agree with Ted Cruz that Agenda 21 will force everyone to live in hobbit homes.

Obama has capitulated time and time again and given into the republicans with the very faintest of protest see: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boehner-...what-i-wanted/ it's just that the establishment republicans like Boehner are being wedged from the far right by the tea party fanatics/grandstanders/charlatans/tantrum havers and have to worry about being primaried. So they've ruined many things that would have happened under the normal course of business.
Fuck. Obama had a chief of staff that called progressives "fucking idiots". He's governing centre-right and is basically a corporate shill like any president essentially has to be these days with the current campaign finance situation.

This last debt ceiling fight is essentially the first time Obama hasn't immediately capitulated and it's mainly because he had most of the moneyed interests and corporations on his side and the Republicans had no real plan or strategy to achieve anything. Next time they'll probably find some middle ground if the loonies on the right don't screw things up again like they did in '11 when Boehner and Obama wanted to make a deal.
There might already be a more moderate budget deal in the works. Paul Ryan and Patty Murray have hammered out a budget that restores some spending that was hit by the sequester and cuts in other places. Reports are that it is a fair and reasonable budget where both sides get some and give some. So of course the far right hates it and so far the liberals haven't said a whole lot, but Obama said he likes it.
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