Originally Posted by lucas131

it is not like waiting for traffic for nothing ... it is tons of tries, it is tons of time and energy to find out how and what works at the moment, then when google makes change, of course people are pissed ... i have tried tons of things and now i am using few methods to get in and traffic from google. but, when you see what google makes, what changes and what is on serps that you used to have, it is really not like we are just crying, truth is that google is totally useless crap for most of my search, not talking about my serps ...