Originally Posted by klinton

yes, of course is better to live in so called free country Russia, ruled by exKGB guy and his colleagues, responsible for 1999 bombings, with corrupted goverment and with strange mentality of people ;-)

Originally Posted by Phoenix

apparently protestors are being taken from hospitals, and taken into the forest and executed. not sure if true yet...but there is a big commotion going on about it a few places

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

No problem and apology accepted. This is perfect example how easily things can escalate with few sentences (imagine it with more serious things and texts like you posted,observations,flammable statements...etc). And now, just imagine adding violence, on existing national tensions that are there in most of countries worldwide(especially if economy is bad, someone is always blaming other side). It is a recipe for disaster and precisely what someone there is trying to do and benefit from anarchy that will rise from mess and civil war. Now, try to think who will get most if Ukraine goes to war and country is divided? Russia don't need another war in it's backyard ,that is for sure.

Precisely same happened in Yugoslavia, problems and war are fueled from outside by arming different nationalities and then let them kill and devastate internally. Who will benefit from violence and demonstrations and what is coming next? What do you think? Let me tell you on what I've saw, learned and what I am now living every day: Banks,and companies.

In Yugoslav case, all of them were from EU/west(and basically took over complete economy of market with more then 22 millions people. That is tons of money that were not available to them before war). Russian investments were blocked by puppet regimes until recently (at least in Serbia) and simplified: other countries are giving orders and telling you what to do in own country. It is called democracy today and it is total shit,much worse then to have own people leading even bad ones(it is always better then foreigners). That is constant feeling of humiliation,mocking and when you see how every year your country is poorer and poorer, then it is already too late because you can't do shit. So I guess that on this theme should comment only people that at least once in a lifetime experienced occupation (that doesn't have to be exclusively by military means, but also through economics, law,and medias). I can write you whole day what countries that bring themselves into this position will have to face and how irritating and unpleasant it is for ordinary people, but I don't have time to do so (one of thing that are crazy is to tolerate terrorist and killers on own territory. Just few hours ago police officers in south of Serbia were attacked by Muslim extremist ( terrorists) and one is wounded. "Democratized" country don't have right to answer to that or it will again be some human rights problems and similar shit that is used as excuse to attack or put pressure on country (like they are talking about human rights in Ukraine right now). Those are things, that you need to feel on your own skin, and at that point, find out how you were actually wrong and that there is no way back or any kind of choice. I am afraid that that good % of Ukrainians simply don't know this and will get into same trap (if it ever happen).

Anyway,I am far away from theme so I will respond to your question: No, I don't think it is deliberate propaganda. Person that wrote it probably really feel what is written there. Problem is that those kind of statements and texts are used to make things worse and increase tensions between people and add some more paranoia. I also believe that government is doing bad things to own people to stop mess. It is nothing strange and every country in this world will do the same , and put pressure on people that they are holding responsible. It is not reserved for Ukraine only. What is important is to everybody stay calm because any scenario is better then civil war,violence and devastation. If country split , they will again give tons of money to weapons instead to improve quality of life. Again,someone form outside will benefit again from that, not people there. So, my personal opinion is that for millions of ordinary people any option is better then violence or war. Again, no one is letting Ukraine in EU and it won't ever happen so they should better stick to Russians that already gave them 15 billions and lowered price of natural gas. Any scenario is better then civil war and agresion that is one uneducated boxer is advocating. Even if complete country goes to "western" direction,it is better then war. There is also option to split country like it was case in Czechoslovakia but I doubt they are on that civilization level to do it and learn on other's mistakes.

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Yep,but in my case only one side invaded and these are Germans. My city was also bombed and devastated by allied forces, twice in 1945 , with more firepower then Germans did in 1941. Let me paste you something from Wikipedia:

"Belgrade was bombed by British and American air forces on April 16 and 17, 1944, which was Orthodox Easter Day. The most important unit that took part was American 15th Air Force, based in Foggia in the south of Italy. This carpet bombing raid was executed by 600 bombers flying at high altitude. Civilian casualties were as many as 1,160, while German military losses were 18.[1][2] Belgrade was bombed again on 6 and 8 September 1944 with about 120 flying fortresses from U.S. 15th Air Force, which were accompanied by fighter planes. One unexploded bomb had a written 'Happy Easter' which amazed citizens of Belgrade. [3]"

And, yes we were on their side, against Nazis ,even saved 500 american airmen : https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5CXope9ncI but got that shit. Maybe for you wars are far away but again in 1999 bombings again started and German airforce was first time deployed after WW2,so it Europe is not so calm as you thing, maybe info are just too far from you. In this moment,we have tons of muslim terrorists on european soil, waiting mostly in Bosnia, parts of Serbia and Kosovo, many of them going currently in Syria to fight against Al Assad on Al Quaeda side. THis is far away from peace,it is just matter of time. BTW, where are you from?

Originally Posted by donnie

Jebo ti musliman mamu sugavu u usta