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Old 02-19-2014, 06:53 PM  
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First, saying they have done more than Occupy isn't hyperbole.. Occupy did nothing. Second, they have garnered more mainstream media attention than any grassroots effort you can name... With zero resources. The fact that you opened this thread to tell me they are ineffectual proves how effective they have become at drawing attention. With attention comes resources, with resources comes influence, with influence comes power, with power comes change. If you don't start with power, influence or resources you'd best become damn at getting attention. These girls have definitely done that.
Yes yes, they hit the zeitgeist for the "Putin is Bad" West media (which for the record I happen to agree with) and they'll continue to get some coverage until the flavor of the month dies down. If they stay visible and actually build something beyond their initial notoriety - working with actual opposition groups or NGOs, etc - then we'll see.

Occupy was problematic and in some ways kinda silly, but in many of the locales where it was best-organized it did put thousands of people in touch with activist & community groups that still continue after the craze died down. In some places it really helped solidify activist infrastructure and communications. To measure a movement like that with "success" or "did nothing" is pretty facile.

Pussy Riot, Occupy, whatever, I'm supportive of any group or individual that speaks out against oppression & injustice. All I said was let's not get carried away with this Pussy Riot thing.
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