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Originally Posted by MaDalton
running a site like Pornhub is per se not something illegal as long as the content is licensed, you can't forbid that
you could do it like the germans and require age verification (there is no free hardcore porn on .de domains) but it would help if Visa and Mastercard would be involved. Otherwise people just move on to other TLDs or countries
getting politicians and religious groups involved would be absurd, as if they would care whether it's legal or illegal porn. they just want us to go away in total
and you don't even need to re-educate people, you can still offer free content for those who are not able or willing to pay - make your money from ad revenue instead
i always see tubes as free TV and paysites as SKY or HBO - you just need to close a few loopholes and have real legal consequences for those that still break the laws.
but just "free = bad" is too simple
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Excellent points! But in America, to get anything done concerning sex, you need to rile people up to take action and no one gets their panties in a bunch more than soccer moms and Christians. LOL Oh how I wish it was like in Germany and most of Europe, where the attitudes about sex (and sex workers) is sane.
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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
To make $1 billion a year from 100 million uniques a day they would have to be making a little under $30/k and that just isn't happening today. Considering the traffic type and with my experience running legal tubes I think even $10/k would be a serious stretch. That $10/k would include all income from ads, dating, cams, premium, everything. For comparison FFN has an estimated annual revenue of about $300 million but a lot of that is eaten up by ad buys and affiliate payments (in fact they have been net negative for a while due to various debts). Adding up all the revenues of all the adult companies would not be an accurate gage of the industry worth since it includes the same money multiple times. That is, say FFN pays MindGeek $100 million in year for ad buys. FFN counts the income gained from those ad buys as revenue and likewise Mindgeek counts the money earned from the ad buys as revenue so the same $100 million is double counted. I agree on other investments outside of porn but that's outside of the scope of the focus.
PS- Ironically $30/k probably could have happened back in 2006 before they started giving 100 million people free porn every day. But it's not happening now on that traffic. They hurt themselves.
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I agree with your numbers, I was mixing up Mind Geek and "the Industry" estimates. Typical of me. LOL But yeah, I would agree $100 million is about right based on estimates. Who knows for real?