04-17-2014, 07:22 AM
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Cliven Bundy Exposes the Cravenness of the Modern Right
Call it "individualism" or "libertarianism" or whatever you want, but those who declare themselves a Republic of One and raise their own flags are in a very literal sense being unpatriotic.
That's why I'm alarmed by the support in many conservative precincts for the Nevada scofflaws who have been exploiting public lands for private purposes and refuse to pay for the privilege because they choose not to "recognize" the authority of the United States.
Totally aside from the double standards involved in expecting kid-glove treatment of one set of lawbreakers as opposed to poorer and perhaps darker criminal suspects, fans of the Bundys are encouraging those who claim a right to wage armed revolutionary war towards their obligations as Americans.
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Read more... http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...s-modern-right
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DEBUNKED: Cliven Bundy Cattle Not Seized by BLM for Fracking or Chinese Solar Panel Projects
Claim No. 1 ? That?s Cliven Bundy?s LAND!
Rebuttal No 1: NO IT ISN?T! Despite his claims of owning a piece of America simply because his family?s cows ate there, Cliven Bundy never owned one inch of that federal property. Not a single inch of it.
He never ?owned the rights? to graze his cows there, because the BLM doesn?t ?sell? grazing rights. They lease them, and Cliven Bundy just didn?t want to pay his lease.
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Claim No 2 ? The Turtles Are Just a Smokescreen!
No, they?re really not. Back in 1993, the BLM established that area as a protected turtle habitat, because the turtles were disappearing. Even Cliven Bundy himself acknowledges that the turtles have disappeared, their populations dropping by more than 90 percent in his lifetime.
Granted, he uses some folksy wisdom about how the decline of the turtle population has something to do with the decline of ranching in the area.
In an amazing example of putting the cart before the cow, Bundy sees the non-native sheep and cow population as somehow having a positive effect on a reptile that?s been there for millions of years ? and which has suddenly begun to die off, apparently because it couldn?t get along without the sheep and cows that it managed to survive 60 million years without.
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Claim No 3. ? Harry Reid?s Grabbing it For Chinese Solar / Fracking!
Uhhh?no, he?s really not. For several reasons, but mainly because the BLM didn?t have to ?grab? anything. It was land they already owned, and always had.
Bundy never had the land of his own to sustain 1,000-plus cattle, and his family had always been dependent on use of fed land to raise cows. But the BLM didn?t NEED to ?grab anybody?s land.? It was their land to begin with. And after Bundy stopped paying his lease, he was effectively gone as far as they were concerned. With nobody leasing the land, the BLM closed his former allotment for grazing permanently.
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Claim No. 4 ? The Gummint?s Comin? to Take Ever?thang From Independent Men Like Cliven Bundy!
First, Cliven Bundy was never ?independent.? His Mormon ancestors might have had some cows there, but they wouldn?t have if the United States FEDERAL GOVERNMENT hadn?t been ceded that territory by Mexico.
Cliven Bundy?s Mormon grandpappy didn?t capture that territory?the American government did. And it has belonged to them ever since. Bundy?s family was permitted to graze cows there for a fee, and Cliven forfeited his right to that allotment when he stopped paying. The federal government, who owned the land and always had, started looking for another use for it. Simple as that.
Or?it MIGHT have been as simple as that, had one self-entitled old man who didn?t want to pay his rent not suckered a bunch of teabillies into holding guns for him.
Make no mistake, this is, in fact, an eviction. It?s punitive, and aggressive. But landlords tend to get that way when you?re still squatting on property you haven?t paid on in 20 years.
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Cliven Bundy Has No Claim to Federal Land and Grazing
Cliven Bundy is a Big Fat Million Dollar Welfare Dead Beat!
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What Bundy hasn't paid to the Feds is exactly the same a stealing. What he hasn't paid for using Federal Property has gone into his pocket after being snatched from the pocket of every tax payer.
The same is true of private companies that refuse to pay for public lands for drilling, that refuse to pay for the use of public facilities for their for-profit charter schools, and that park their assets overseas to avoid paying their fair share of taxes to America where they made their money in the first place.
They're ALL Thieves and Corporate Welfare Cheats. They either skirt the laws, or they manipulate and deform them to their own selfish benefit, causing the rest of us to pay instead.
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