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Originally Posted by MaDalton
i hope you keep in mind that "significant facts" sometimes turn out to be fabricated.
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O'rly? What exactly facts do you consider as "fabricated" ones? This one:
Or maybe this one:
Do you think that both were shot at Lubianka's basements? Ok, so what's about the "Porn King" status from Durov's page in vkontakte?
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Originally Posted by MaDalton
and while i agree that especially Fox and MSNBC (but also CNN and others) do spread their site of propaganda, i hope you don't want to tell me that the russian media is completely neutral and unbiased
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I never said that the state Russian news channels are not propaganda. They are and I just do not watch/read them. However, here in Russian we have a lot of independent (independent from the government, but not from their owners of course) ones and also we have access to all the western media too. How many Russian news sources you have in your TV packets? RT only? For example, my TV packet includes almost all the major Western channels, so I have a lot of sources to choose from.
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Originally Posted by MaDalton
Not long ago you named Nawalny as example that there is opposition and free media in Russia - they couldn't lock him up with an obviously bogus lawsuit and now he will be silenced in other ways.
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Yes he is. He is the man who's got 27% of votes in Moscow without using of any administrative resource (has has started his election company with about 5%). He had no access to the state TV channels, for example. However, almost all the sane Moscow citizens (basically 18-40 y.o. ones) have voted for him. This means that Russian citizens have access to lots of alternative sources of information. He is the one whom Putin is afraid like a death. Putin even afraid to call his name publicly (that's a proven fact) because he thinks (there is an official proof too) that if he do that, Navalny will bite a piece of his reputation. So everything that Putin does against Navalny is just a panic - a blind, crazy and uncontrollable fear.
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Originally Posted by MaDalton
once again - i am not blaming just one side - i blame both. just the methods are different.
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The story behind Durov has nothing to do with Putin. Navalny is a way another case indeed
