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tigermtb · 05-02-2014, 01:44 PM

Hi everyone.

No idea know who the poster is (or their account with us) and as normal .. nobody has contacted me about these questions previously before running to GFY to start a thread.

I'm bewildered as what to even reply -- where do I start first?

Clearly from your post, I understand that you're new to Traffic and Advertising. I understand that and going to try my hardest not to knock you on that, but your suggestions here are ridiculous and quite honestly, your suggestion that our traffic is all fraudulent (without any documentation) is grounds for ban on GFY. But, instead I'll actually answer your "questions."

Chinese Traffic through US Proxies??
Can you provide some sort of .. anything .. to show that "Chinese" traffic is somehow being changed into US traffic through proxies? Are you aware that our Advertisers manage their placements with us (and their results) and if they didn't make sales they wouldn't purchase traffic from us? If everything was Chinese traffic -- then nobody would buy it because the traffic would be pretty much worthless. Its not possible to simply do some voodoo on surfers and make the traffic convert. Not onto that, but it would be easily testable and fairly simple to prove.

Further to this -- JuicyAds is one of the few networks who does Proxy detection and correction. Meaning, we detect the proxy and deliver ads based on the actual country. We void bad proxy traffic based on internal metrics.

We are a transparent network of over 100,000 websites in our database. We have over 55,000 clients. There's no possible way that any network would orchestrate anything like any of your claims across the entire network. It would require Publishers to not understand their own traffic, or somehow for us to be running the websites in our network. We own none of them.

This is the same response to your claims that "ALL" the spots in our network are somehow coordinated to deliver a certain amount of traffic per day -- this isn't possible. We see fluxuation all the time when people change their creatives, or something happens with the traffic on the website. Oviously there are exceptions to this and we are constantly weeding out bad traffic as this is our job as a network.

Impression drops and Refunds ..
Publishers frequently move, change, remove, and add new adzones. Websites go offline, people forget to renew their domains, people forget or neglect to pay their hosting bills. We suspend websites. We suspend Publishers. People switch ads. Websites get hacked, databases break, Google dances.

These are all possible reasons why a space stops sending traffic. We refund our Advertisers when we see a sudden drop in traffic. This is to protect our Buyers.

Publisher Pricing
Prices are set by our Publishers, not us. If they are ridiculous then as an open transparent marketplace, you do not have to buy. When unsold, FillerAds (Network ads) run on the space and the traffic is being sold anyway -- so its actually being purchased by someone else when sitting on the marketplace.

Click Auditing
All JuicyAds traffic is monitored and audited by a third party company. They review the data, and we void out thousands of clicks per day for fraud, fake proxy traffic, and so on. This is in addition to our own internal anti-fraud systems.

If you're interested, I can review your account and see if there's any Chinese voodoo going on. We do have clients who buy traffic and send it to their websites, we do have people who send bad traffic which we void, or suspend their accounts. We test eveyone's traffic, review websites and traffic patterns constantly. Maybe you need an account manager to help with your purchases.

The bottom line is, I think JuicyAds deserves an apology for this thread.

05-02-2014, 01:44 PM
tigermtb Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,062	Hi everyone. No idea know who the poster is (or their account with us) and as normal .. nobody has contacted me about these questions previously before running to GFY to start a thread. I'm bewildered as what to even reply -- where do I start first? Clearly from your post, I understand that you're new to Traffic and Advertising. I understand that and going to try my hardest not to knock you on that, but your suggestions here are ridiculous and quite honestly, your suggestion that our traffic is all fraudulent (without any documentation) is grounds for ban on GFY. But, instead I'll actually answer your "questions." Chinese Traffic through US Proxies?? Can you provide some sort of .. anything .. to show that "Chinese" traffic is somehow being changed into US traffic through proxies? Are you aware that our Advertisers manage their placements with us (and their results) and if they didn't make sales they wouldn't purchase traffic from us? If everything was Chinese traffic -- then nobody would buy it because the traffic would be pretty much worthless. Its not possible to simply do some voodoo on surfers and make the traffic convert. Not onto that, but it would be easily testable and fairly simple to prove. Further to this -- JuicyAds is one of the few networks who does Proxy detection and correction. Meaning, we detect the proxy and deliver ads based on the actual country. We void bad proxy traffic based on internal metrics. We are a transparent network of over 100,000 websites in our database. We have over 55,000 clients. There's no possible way that any network would orchestrate anything like any of your claims across the entire network. It would require Publishers to not understand their own traffic, or somehow for us to be running the websites in our network. We own none of them. This is the same response to your claims that "ALL" the spots in our network are somehow coordinated to deliver a certain amount of traffic per day -- this isn't possible. We see fluxuation all the time when people change their creatives, or something happens with the traffic on the website. Oviously there are exceptions to this and we are constantly weeding out bad traffic as this is our job as a network. Impression drops and Refunds .. Publishers frequently move, change, remove, and add new adzones. Websites go offline, people forget to renew their domains, people forget or neglect to pay their hosting bills. We suspend websites. We suspend Publishers. People switch ads. Websites get hacked, databases break, Google dances. These are all possible reasons why a space stops sending traffic. We refund our Advertisers when we see a sudden drop in traffic. This is to protect our Buyers. Publisher Pricing Prices are set by our Publishers, not us. If they are ridiculous then as an open transparent marketplace, you do not have to buy. When unsold, FillerAds (Network ads) run on the space and the traffic is being sold anyway -- so its actually being purchased by someone else when sitting on the marketplace. Click Auditing All JuicyAds traffic is monitored and audited by a third party company. They review the data, and we void out thousands of clicks per day for fraud, fake proxy traffic, and so on. This is in addition to our own internal anti-fraud systems. If you're interested, I can review your account and see if there's any Chinese voodoo going on. We do have clients who buy traffic and send it to their websites, we do have people who send bad traffic which we void, or suspend their accounts. We test eveyone's traffic, review websites and traffic patterns constantly. Maybe you need an account manager to help with your purchases. The bottom line is, I think JuicyAds deserves an apology for this thread. __________________ Jay \| JuicyAds Founder Businessman of the Year [YNOT Awards 2013] The most awarded adult advertising network with 25+ XBIZ, GFY, and YNOT Awards. Last edited by tigermtb; 05-02-2014 at 01:51 PM..