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Old 05-07-2014, 10:02 AM  
crockett
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
I'm super fiscally conservative.

I'm more liberal socially than any Democrat.

I believe in freedom and no oppressive govt. running my life.

Basically I'm sort of a hybrid "hippy" with money.

Now the question is...(since you want to deflect from the issues and make this about me personally)...Just what the fuck are YOU?

A "liberal"? Who doesn't question the govt.??? Who accepts what they are doing because your "team" is in office?

Brother...the true liberals who led the way in the "modern" age would laugh at you.
Where are the Abbie Hoffman's of today? Where are the college kids like the ones who died at Kent State protesting the war?

A lot of them seem to be playing XBox and texting on their Iphones I guess. Or have a "team" mentality like some of you do and THINK you are a freedom loving liberal.

You're not a freedom loving liberal. The things you seem to espouse are not "liberal" at all. It's just big govt. and cheerleading your team to "victory"

I don't "group think" like some of y'all do.

I think your heart is in the right place.

To try and deflect the discussion of an issue by thinking you are going to "insult" me by calling me "conservative" is a joke. And a very, very lame and empty way to try to bully me in a discussion.

I promise you...my ideas and lifestyle make you look like Newt Gingrich.

So let's stick to the argument, and don't worry about who or what you think I am.

In this thread I've stated that:
1. The Pres. and his staff went on national television and lied their asses off about a "video" to help him with his campaign against Romney.

Hillary Clinton had that moment in front of Congress where she got pissed and said: "What does it matter anyway?"

Those things (along with the affordable health care act) are going to be used by Republicans in the elections coming up.

I think it's going to hurt the Democrats in the elections this year big time.

I think it COULD hurt in the Presidential election in 2016.
BUT...I also think that the Republican candidates have to go so far insanely religious nutjob to the right that whomever wins the primary will be screwed in the national election and that should help Hillary win.

2. MSNBC is not good at entertaining people. And that's ALL that the evening shows on MSNBC and Fox News are. They are not the news.

Both channels do have decent actual news. But it's not their "talk shows" like Maddow, Matthews, etc. on MSNBC or O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. on Fox News.

But when it does come to the big ratings grabber entertainmant shows...O'Reilly and Hannity are simply far better at it than Maddow and Matthews.


Once I said these facts...all of the Democrat team players on here went berserk on me.

I don't know why.
I didn't say that I thought there is any merit to the shows on FNC except that they had a much better entertainment value (obviously).
I didn't say that I hope the Republican would win the Presidency in 2016. (I do NOT want that to happen)

I just pointed out what's happening.

But you guys are so determined to defend all that is "Democrat Party" that it's comical.

And anyone who doesn't agree?
Well they are obviously a "Republican" (and you have to say that with total disdain in your voice)

It's impossible, after all, to be anything but an EVIL Republican if you don't think in lockstep with Democrat party talking points.

Sorry. That ain't me.
Robbie you also said that the President gave a stand down order. You seem to have brushed right over that after I provided proof that it wasn't true and you didn't even acknowledge it. You simply ignored it and moved on to the next thing..

Now you keep harping on things that is very obvious that it came from Fox News.

If you are going to keep on making broad accusations and then ignoring the parts that get picked apart, then you should start backing up your accusations. You are making a accusation that he lied, yet you demand proof from us all the time, yet you never provide any.

You say he lied. Show us the video. Tell us exactly what was lied about, instead of these overly broad statement that you then creep away from as they get picked apart.

If you saw him lie on national TV like you said you did earlier in this post, then where are the videos? Obviously this would be all over youtube if he lied on TV.. so where is it?

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