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Originally Posted by Robbie
That's not true.
I am critical of all politicians. Obama just happens to be in the White House at the moment.
I actually agree with about 90% of what Obama has said he was going to do.
I disagree with about 50% of what he has actually done.
And I'm upset over 100% of the things he said he would do (and then didn't) that gave me some foolish (and naive) notion that he was going to somehow be "different".
In these discussions I'm more interested in the guys who are running things. Not the minority party who hold power in the House..but can't get anything ever past Harry Reid in the Senate...much less get it signed into law by the President.
From where I sit, Pres. Obama is The Man. And when the plans that The Man makes go wrong...it's The Man who I am going to question.
Boehner, Cruz, and the rest of the Republicans? They have no power to do much of anything at all. So why waste my breath on them?
Now come November...if the Republicans take the Senate, we will see a different environment in Washington.
The Republicans will then have power.
Then we can debate their stupidity.
But for the last 5 years...nope. This was Pres. Obama's watch. And for the first couple of years the Dems had full control.
And blew it.
But we'll see.
Who knows? Maybe he will be like Clinton was. And with an opposition party as the majority in the Senate and House... he may finally shine and be the Pres. I had hoped for.
Let's fucking hope so.
To me he's the most disappointing Pres. of my lifetime.
I didn't expect much from the others. And they lived up to that. lol
Clinton was somebody I voted for and then thought I had made a horrible mistake (his first couple of years)...but then he came through (until his last couple of years when the Republicans dragged him down over stupid sex scandals).
So Bill Clinton was the one President of my adult life that I felt kicked ass.
The rest of them? Not so much.
But Obama gets my most disdain. He let me down the hardest. Starting with health care.
Remember when he said that it was going to be "transparent" when they wrote the health care law and be broadcast LIVE every step of the way on CSPAN for all of America to see?
Lied.
And that was just the start.
I think many of us set the bar very high because we believed Obama's campaign speeches.
Maybe he was a victim of his own success at giving speeches?
But whatever the reason...I can't wait for his Presidency to be over.
I really think that it will be just like the end of the Carter Presidency...the economy will finally pick back up once he's out.
I'll be voting Libertarian. But since I know I'll be outnumbered by sheep voting Dem and Repub...I hope that Hillary wins and brings Bill with her. I think that the experience those two have will enable them to get the country rolling again.
And that's all just opinion on my part.
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You bring up something.. You said the minority party can't get anything passed the Senate.. However there are several things that Boner (yes I call him Boner) could have brought to the floor to have a vote but he refused to do so.
One of those things was during the budget arguments. There were several times when it was pretty certain that there were more than enough votes from both Republicans and Democrats to pass the budget but Boner wouldn't bring it to a vote.
You have said many times that it's all Obama's fault that things were not getting passed but what I'm bringing up is a clear example of how the Republicans in the house kept the budget from being passed.
Right now this exact same blocking method is being played out by Boner and the Republicans in the house. A few weeks ago the Senate passed the unemployment extension, Boner has obviously stated he didn't like it "yet" it can still be voted on. However he will not allow it to be brought to the floor for a vote.
Once again, there is a pretty good notion that there is enough Republican support to pass the extension as it is, but the house can not vote on it because Boner is blocking it from going to the floor.
This is nothing but petty politics because he doesn't like the bill and is holding it hostage from a vote. Why hold a bill hostage that other house members would support including many Republicans whom have openly stated they would vote to pass it?
Why because just like with the budget, the Republicans are putting their party over what is good for the country and the economy. At first it was the excuse that the bill wasn't "paid for" ie we would have to borrow money from China.
Ok, that's understandable, but the Senate hashed out a bill that was then paid for with no need to borrow, meeting Boner's demands. Once again that wasn't good enough for Boner, whom decided that it had to contain their "jobs" bill. Their jobs bill mind you is filled to the brim with lobbyist bull shit that hurts unions and caters to big business, which is just once again fucking over the blue collar worker in favor of big business lobbyist. Not to members once again have his demands met and then moving the the line another 50 feet.
This is what so called compromise is with the GOP.. You give them what they want, they say no and want more. This is why I laugh at you when you say Obama fails to compromise with them, because this is the exact thing they have done the last 5 years.
This is the GOP and how they work, so I don't really understand why you put so much blame on Obama, while excusing this kind of BS with House Republicans whom control half of Congress. They don't hold the oval office, but they certainly can affect what the president is able to do, but you act as if they have no power to do anything.