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Old 05-08-2014, 08:53 AM  
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
I'm not sure what budget you were talking about that "Boner" held up.

The Senate didn't pass a budget for years:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/23/politi...e-budget-bill/

And that's from 2013.

And also from 2013...the President again not submitting a budget:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...dget-deadline/

That's their constitutional responsibility. And it's the President's JOB to make sure that he works with the Senate and The House to get the needed votes and/or meet with the House leaders and Senate leaders to make sure that the budget has the votes AND is brought to the floor.

That's been one of my criticism's of this Pres.
He has not...ever, been able to reach out and get things done.

The answer to that one is always: "Well Mitch McConnell said he was going to make Obama a "one-term" president"

Okay, that's definitely a fair response and a gauntlet thrown down at the Pres.

And that's why it was imperative for Pres. Obama to reach out and fix that shit. But he couldn't and wouldn't.

And as I've said in the past...the Republicans HATED Clinton with a passion. They even impeached him. But he STILL was able to reach out to them and get shit done.

And the Dems HATED G.W. Bush...but lo and behold, he too was able to work with them.

I think that Obama's inability to find a way to heal that shit, and his reported "aloofness" are the single greatest weaknesses to his entire administration.

History is going to love him (and rightfully so) for being the first black Pres.

But in my opinion...if he were just another white President, he would never have survived that last election. And he would be remembered as another Jimmy Carter: A real smart guy who just couldn't work with Congress or the House.

That's my take on it. I'm sure you don't agree. But that's what I think about that situation.

And I do really believe that once he is out of office the economy is going to come back to life. I think Hillary will win and knowing that Bill will be there to lend his wisdom too...businesses will respond with new optimism and start spending and growing again.

But again, that's just my opinion. It doesn't mean that I "hate" Obama or that I'm a religious crazy person "conservative" Koch Brother-loving "gun nut".
Oh common Robbie, you seriously can not claim you don't remember the BS with the budget..

Even right here on a Fox News article it talks about how Boner knows he can likely pass the bill with the Republican votes he had and the easy to get Democrat votes but he chooses not to allow the vote because he wanted more Republican support.

http://www.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.ht...8&pageNum =-1

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That's the dilemma facing House Speaker John Boehner as he tries to round up the votes to pass a fast-approaching spending compromise and avert a partial government shutdown by week's end.

Boehner, R-Ohio, wants the overwhelming majority of those votes to come from his fellow Republicans, even if dozens of easily attainable Democratic votes could help carry the budget bill to victory.

The goal complicates Boehner's task, and possibly could push the bill farther to the right. It motivates him to battle for the votes of conservative Republicans who are demanding deeper spending cuts, and greater changes to social issues such as abortion access, than the Democratic-controlled Senate and President Barack Obama say they can accept.
and further down..

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Members of both parties say Boehner probably could assemble 218 votes easily, if he didn't care who cast them. As an example, they point to the last short-term spending bill, which passed 271-158 in mid-March. It contained $10 billion in cuts, which Democrats once called unacceptable, and kept the government running for a few more weeks.

I mean really even Fox News outside of their talking heads of course reported that Boner wouldn't bring the vote forward even though he knew it might pass. Even Fox News reported that what Boner was doing was catering to the far right and would create a bill that Boner knew Obama wouldn't agree to.

Really man, you are ignoring what happened and trying to rewrite the past and as I mention the exact same thing is happening with the unemployment extension, so you don't even have to look at history he is doing the same thing right now.

One guy, John Boner is keeping the vote from coming to the house floor. It's not Obama, It's not anyone in the Senate, it's the Speaker of the House. This happened with all the budget talks, be it temp extensions or what not. The only person that can bring the vote to the floor is John Boner and because of that he has the power to hold the bills hostage and he does it every single time, just like he's doing right now with the unemployment extension.
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