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Originally Posted by Robbie
No, Bill Clinton had to deal with the "Contract With America" and the "new" Republicans. (not to mention being pulled up to Capital Hill and forced to testify, having all his friends thrown in jail by Ken Starr, and in the end...being IMPEACHED)
And it doesn't matter how much to the "right" that you may perceive Pres. Obama to be...that's not what I'm pointing out.
I'm saying that he isn't able to reach across and make things happen.
Even when Newt was the House Speaker and the Republicans were crucifying Pres. Clinton...he STILL got things done with them.
He and Newt even enjoyed taking Newt's classic Mustang out together.
In my mind, if Pres. Obama were a better leader he would easily pull Boehner in line and things would get done.
BUT...the Pres. would have to make concessions in order to get what he wants. That's how it's supposed to work. So that nobody has absolute power.
He hasn't been able to do that. That is his failing.
It's not Boehners place to convince the Pres., it's the President's place to lead the country in the direction HE wants it to go...and to get the support of Congress to do so.
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You keep always saying that it's 100% his fault. What I am saying is any agreement is the result of a partnership. A partnership requires "both" sides to work with each other not just "one" side as you imagine.
One person can not be a partnership it takes two. No amount of reaching across the aisle will create a partner ship if the other side is unwilling.
In my quote from the Fox News article, it even said that Boner knew he likely had enough votes to pass the bill yet he wouldn't put it up for a vote. How much more black & white do you need? It specifically said that Boner knew by trying to please the far right, it would cause the bill to be un-passable.
Honestly, this is even FOX news stating this and it's very black and white. They even bring up that the previous bill, where Obama gave them more than they expected. Meaning YES Obama did cross the aisle and gave them more than they thought they would get. Yet you still say he never works with them and that it's all his fault.
It's right there in black in white from a source that is very GOP friendly and even they show it was Boner not allowing it to be passed.
My current example, right now the unemployment extension. Obama isn't keeping it from the floor of the house, the Senate Leaders are not keeping it from the floor of the house.. John Boner is keeping it from the floor of the house.
Despite the bill having majority support with-in the house from BOTH Republicans and Democrats, ONE man is keeping it from being voted on and his name is John Boehner. It's not John Boehners place to decide what the majority want, but he can sure stop the majority from voting their minds by not allowing a vote to take place. How is that Obama's fault?