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Old 05-08-2014, 12:39 PM  
crockett
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
I don't know crockett...everything I've read about the President says that he is very stand-offish and that leaders of Congress rarely see or speak to him...not even on the phone.

And again...yes, if it's two people with the same idea working together they are PARTNERS.

But that is NOT how it works with a LEADER (the President) trying to get the OPPOSITION party to work together.

As I said, this is Pres. Obama's administration. Not John Boehner's.

Boehner has no reason to do anything with Obama. Just like Gingrich had no reason to work with Clinton.

But a good leader finds a way...just like Bill Clinton did.

Pres. Obama has been unsuccessful in doing so.

For whatever reason...he is unable to get a hostile opposition party to work with him.

If you want to blame the opposition for being...the opposition, then so be it.

I look to the leadership.
I admire that Clinton was able to do what he did against a super hostile opposition party.

In contrast, Obama has nowhere near that level of opposition...and still can't figure out how to work with them.

It's like anything. If you are going to be "the boss", you have to take the blame for everything. That's what being "the man" is all about.

In my company, if anything goes wrong...it's my fault. I don't care what it is. It's my fault.

"The Buck Stops Here".

That's just the way I see it.

I do see what you are saying. Believe me, I've heard it over and over again.

Bill Maher likes to say that it's all because Pres. Obama is black. And Republicans are racist.

Maybe that is the case? I don't know. I'm not in Washington D.C.

But when I went and saw the "Lincoln" movie last year, it was amazing how much work Abraham Lincoln had to do to get completely racist Democrats and Republicans in Congress to support the Emancipation Proclamation.

Now THAT was a President who knew how to lead.

Our current one? Not so much.

But that's just my viewpoint. Nothing more, nothing less.
Robbie, I think if anything Obama because very jaded once he became the President. I think he expected the Republicans to be willing to work with him, which they had no plans to do so.

Add to this Obama had had quite a few death threats including his inauguration in which his family was potentially in jeopardy. Obama actually received death threats before he was nominated as the front runner for the Democratic side. No time in our history has that ever happened, forcing the secret service to provide him protection prior to him being nominated which is the first time this has ever happened.

He has had more death threats than any other president in our country's history and many have been directed at his family.

Seriously do you not think you would also be a bit jaded or maybe stand offish? I think he came into office believing and wanting to change things and he has been met with overwhelming hate from the right.

No one is going to remain unaffected by that.
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