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Old 05-11-2014, 07:05 AM  
Grapesoda
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Originally Posted by kane View Post
In Oregon we vote by mail so a voter ID law wouldn't really work, because the ballot is mailed to you and you mail it back or drop it at a voter box. So she has and will vote. If she had to go to a poll she might still go. She has a wheelchair now so she can get around a little better and if not she would do an absentee ballot.

As for others, I personally can't see how the average, typical person can survive without an ID. As you have pointed out, it is needed for everything these days especially with ID theft such a big problem, but clearly there are a lot of people without. Now that I think about it my soon to be 21 year old nephew doesn't have a valid photo ID. He has been arrested a handful times and always has extra troubles because he has no ID.
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he has plenty of identification now doesn't he
As for voter fraud. I guess we can't really know the exact number of fraudulent votes cast. I am basing my opinion on those actually charged with it. According to this ABC news article between 2002-2005 there were 197 million votes cast for federal candidates and only 40 people indicted on actual voter fraud. The state of Texas has convicted 51 people of voter fraud in the last 10 years.

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but how many votes did the 40 people organize? that's the real question isn't it.... or do you actually believe they prosecuted a guy for voting twice? a guy smuggles 5 tons of coke into the US and it's 1 drug runner...

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I'm sure there are more that do it and get away with it, but to me it seems like a pretty small problem. I would rather they focus their efforts on curbing the fraud that is committed by the people that run the elections in an effort to swing elections one way or the other. Not to mention how many of the voter ID laws also include reducing the number of days people can vote and how they can vote. Most of them are simply voter suppression laws.

I wouldn't mind some effort put into stopping welfare and medicade cheats
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