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Old 05-14-2014, 09:32 AM  
mopek1
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
mopek1 what are you talking about.

Is this some cool form of trolling you are doing? YOU are the broken record.

The thread is asking the question "why is asking for ID racism?"

That is a talking point that the DNC has put out there.

We are in here having a discussion about that topic and it's variants.

The only thing you have added to the discussion is something that is totally OBVIOUS and was already discussed in the beginning.

Both political parties are looking for any kind of gain in voters that they can get.
The Republicans THINK that by having people show ID it will keep Democrat voters from voting.
Democrats THINK the same thing.

Both sides are assuming that voters who vote Democrat are too "poor" or too "lazy" or too "stupid' to be able to get an ID.

I am saying that is not true.

Now why don't you post AGAIN about how I can't understand the incredibly complex idea that you have proposed:
Republicans look to gain advantage by having people show ID to vote.

Wow! What an epiphany! Hello "Captain Obvious!"

And my point...which goes beyond your obvious (and apparently ONLY) thought on the matter is: The Republicans are wrong. The Dems are wrong.

It is NOT racist to ask for ID. If it were...then everything in life that asks for ID would be illegal because it would be discriminating on the basis of race.

And furthermore, ID is NOT hard to get.

Am I getting my point through to you?
YES, everybody knows that political party's do EVERYTHING for political gain.

NO, I don't agree with either side's motivations. But the point is moot because getting an ID is not "racist" and it not going to "suppress" black people or other "minorities" from voting. They have ID and are perfectly capable of getting ID. They are not weak or stupid.

This thread was set up (framed) to bash Democrats.

There are 2 guilty parties here and by calling out only one (Dems: racist thing) and agreeing with the other (Rep: voter id is a good idea) the you are indirectly taking sides.

The OP and others with similar interests do this because it helps one side while 'seeming' to be neutral. Doesn't matter if people have small disclaimers in their threads saying "yeah both parties are in it for gain" because they then go right to bashing again. Ex:

"FUCKING DEMS!! CALLING IT RACIST ... IMAGINE THE IDIOCY !!!" (followed by lots of high fives from others)

"JUST GET SOME FUCKING ID!!! WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?!!" (followed by more high fives)


Political parties love to frame ideas because that's how they win discussions. You can't lose if you do. He who frames the argument wins it.
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