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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
What's comical is when people show you where you are wrong and you are too dense to accept it, you go on with what you believe even though it's wrong
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I'm not the one creating threads where the first page is pictures of people beating dead horses.
You keep saying I'm wrong like it's a fact yet you can't argue anyone aspect of healthcare.
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
Our wealth is down, but you seem to think it's up....
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Really? Are you sure about that?
From the Wall Street Journal:
Americans' wealth hit the highest level ever last year, according to data released Thursday, reflecting a surge in the value of stocks and homes that has boosted the most affluent U.S. households.
The net worth of U.S. households and nonprofit organizations rose 14% last year, or almost $10 trillion, to $80.7 trillion, the highest on record, according to a Federal Reserve report released Thursday. Even adjusted for inflation using the Fed's preferred gauge of prices, U.S. household net worth?the value of homes, stocks and other assets minus debts and other liabilities?hit a fresh record.
The Fed report shows Americans have made considerable progress repairing the damage inflicted by the housing crash and recession, which ran from December 2007 through June 2009 and decimated the wealth of a wide swath of the nation.
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The pre-recession high net worth was 2007 and was $76.59 trillion. Currently it's $80.66 trillion.
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
the median wage keeps dropping ....
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Really?
Social Security seems to think otherwise.
Here's a graph for you, from SSI:
From Wikipedia:
So you were wrong. Again. Twice. Facts don't matter to you, just the propaganda.
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
the median wage keeps dropping because people are forced to take jobs that pay less, that's the only reason the unemployment is down...
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But I showed you proof that the median wage is up.... So the median wage is up but yet unemployment is still down.
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
I keep telling you this, I have shown you proof, but you are too dense to accept it
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No, you just keep repeating yourself and the more you repeat yourself the more you believe it.
You have never shown me any proof.
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
I quote facts, ( read the OP, it's facts)you are the one that wants to argue them, you think that makes you smart?
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You never quote facts. You never post sources. In the rare event you do it's from some whack job nut website, usually with the name "freedom" or "patriot" in it's name.
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I hardly ever post from Fox....
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So you just admitted you read Fox news.... Perfect.
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
...the president can lie about anything he wants and idiots like you will accept it
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What did he lie about? That you can still have your doctor? Obamacare didn't change which doctor you can visit. Obamacare didn't say "You can't see your regular doctor because we are moving him to a new network". The law didn't restrict or change what doctor you see at all.
However, plans change, doctors move from network to network, and doctors drop plans. This was long before Obamacare. I had a ton of problems with dentists - Every time I would get a new dentist they would drop my dental plan and I was back to square one. (I finally just paid for everything out of my freaking pocket.)
Healthcare plans change. Every year. This is why we have open enrollment.
(Fucking Verizon changed my phone plan those fucking bastards. No more unlimited data!)
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
....other networks are finally believing what a fucked up mess we are in where the president can lie about anything he wants and idiots like you will accept it
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I don't "believe" anything. I look around me and I can see how things have improved. The value of my house dropped nearly $400k before Obama took office, now it's gone up $250k and I am no longer under water. Exactly half the houses on my block were empty shortly after Obama took office, now only one is empty and that just happened.
Every indication is that we are doing better. It's not what I believe, it's what I see and what's being reported. When they say "Unemployment dropped to 6.3%" I accept this as a sign we are doing better; I don't look for a reason to discredit the same statistics I've been reading about for the past twenty-five years.
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla
Yet you still think I'm a republican, just because I think Obama is a bad president
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... It's a duck.
I fail to see how Obama is a bad president. We got sucked into the worst position ever in my lifetime during the recession, and we are a lot better off now than I expected. Again, I'm hoping for the best and seeing what's around me, while you are looking for a way to discredit everything.