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Originally Posted by Grapesoda
perfect example of why we can't trust anti gun nuts
http://theacru.org/acru/harvard_stud...terproductive/
The findings of two criminologists - Prof. Don Kates and Prof. Gary Mauser - in their exhaustive study of American and European gun laws and violence rates, are telling:
Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not. The study found that the nine European nations with the lowest rates of gun ownership (5,000 or fewer guns per 100,000 population) have a combined murder rate three times higher than that of the nine nations with the highest rates of gun ownership (at least 15,000 guns per 100,000 population).
For example, Norway has the highest rate of gun ownership in Western Europe, yet possesses the lowest murder rate. In contrast, Holland's murder rate is nearly the worst, despite having the lowest gun ownership rate in Western Europe. Sweden and Denmark are two more examples of nations with high murder rates but few guns. As the study's authors write in the report:
If the mantra "more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death" were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates. (p. 661
if you're willing to lie ... what can I say.... you think I want a person like that setting rules and regulations that affect me??
sandyhook is a great example, so lets look at mental health issues not inanimate objects issues
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3240065.html |
Japan
The UK
Canada
German
Australia
These are countries that all have very strict gun laws.
According to
this all of them also have a murder rate that is much lower than the US.
I understand that there is much more at play when it comes to murder rates than just the availability of guns, but I think it does play a role.
Based on your example, Norway has a high rate of gun ownership for a European country, but the ownership rate is still only about 35% of what it is here in the US. For that matter, when you look at the examples used in the article that you linked all of those countries have gun ownership levels that are significantly lower than the US.
I'm not saying we should outlaw guns. I am just saying that if we are going to live in a society where guns are everywhere and easy to get we can't be shocked at the level of gun violence that we have.