Originally Posted by kane

Japan
The UK
Canada
German
Australia

These are countries that all have very strict gun laws.

According to this all of them also have a murder rate that is much lower than the US.

I understand that there is much more at play when it comes to murder rates than just the availability of guns, but I think it does play a role.

Based on your example, Norway has a high rate of gun ownership for a European country, but the ownership rate is still only about 35% of what it is here in the US. For that matter, when you look at the examples used in the article that you linked all of those countries have gun ownership levels that are significantly lower than the US.

I'm not saying we should outlaw guns. I am just saying that if we are going to live in a society where guns are everywhere and easy to get we can't be shocked at the level of gun violence that we have.