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Originally Posted by pompousjohn
Well theres "fraud" a word people toss around pretty lightly and then theres credit card fraud. Joins aren't easy to get and if I could do it alone I wouldn't have affiliates at all.
I don't tolerate credit card fraud from anyone for any reason in any amount. But we both know that's not the end of the story.
For me when dealing with creative affiliates, chatters, black hats etc. the criteria is this:
What you provide is joins, and that's what I pay for, because in the short term thats all I can measure - but its not what I want.
I want customers. I don't have any way to tell if your joins will become my customers until its all said and done. So I give it some time then evaluate. If I am getting customers we are fine. If it's just joins thats not what I want, and I'll let you find a program that wants your joins.
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You already said his joins are active on the site and look normal or perhaps a little below average. That is not standard with credit card fraud I would assume?
All I was pointing out is that there are many ways of sending traffic where hits do not get counted properly. Where you came up with the idea that I was defending bullshit traffic or credit card fraud I have no idea but I said no such thing.