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Old 06-11-2014, 07:17 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by mineistaken View Post
Inspired by this thread:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1142833
And this quote:




My proposal: If you do not graduate HS you are not eligible for welfare and food stamps.
Or softer touch - you get only 50% of usual dose.


Also your graduation must be legitimized by some tests since as you see from that quote - you have lots of fake graduations when you graduate but can not do basic math. Meaning teachers just push you to graduation while your actual knowledge level is somewhere at 6 grade. That is fake graduation.
There are a couple of issues that could derail this plan.

First, the problem starts well before high school. Many grade school no longer have "graduations." They now call them "promotions." Why? Simple. They can move anyone forward. When my nephew was in 8th grade he took a total of 18 classes that year (6 per semester) and he failed 15 of them. The only class he passed all year was PE. And he was moved on to high school.

As you point out, many of the graduates still are well under-educated. Going back to my nephew, late in his junior year he got expelled from school for having drugs on campus. Up until that point he had failed about 40% of his classes. They allowed him to finish 6 packets of "work" and turn them in (almost all of which his mom and girlfriend did for him) and he graduated, yet he reads, writes and does math at about a 5th or maybe 6th grade level.

So there would need to be a full revamping of our education system for starters in order to up the standards and quality.

Next, is the motivation. If you can't motivate a kid to go to school and do decently by telling them that this is how they are going to thrive in the future, do you think telling them they won't be able to get food stamps and welfare will motivate them? It might motivate a few, but most won't care.

Then some years later when they actually do need the help an can't get it they do what? Turn to crime is the likely answer.

I don't think the solution to welfare issues is trying to set up barriers to keep people off of it, but instead we should be focused on helping those who are on it get off of it and stay off of it.

Just my 2 cents.
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